"more than enough"? what the hell do you know about that? you dont know **** about the revenue loss M-1 would have if they just signed away their best name. you dont know **** about the revenue they will get outside of the states if they just keep him inside M-1 and keep co-promoting with smaller promotions. you dont know **** about what they lose by signing away his likeness. in short, you dont know **** but you keep acting like you do. all you have is hearsay about a contract you wouldnt even understand the financial ramifications of EVEN IF it wasnt just based on rumors and speculation.

in fact, even that 20% shareholder number you throw about is hearsay. but go ahead, keep believing you actually know more about what is in Fedors best interest than he does himself.

You just described yourself. You are putting all the blame on Fedor and calling him greedy. There is one side that has a history of being greedy, and it's the UFC (not saying Fedor's management hasn't been greedy, but they haven't to the same degree of the UFC.) You are insanely delusional if you think Fedor is turning this deal down due to greed. Like he really expected more than 5 mil a fight. Seriously just GTFO. There's a lot we don't know, but what we do know now is that deal isn't all everyone thought it was, and there is obvious drawbacks. There's reasons why M-1 is hesitant to give in, we all know that, yet you seem to think everything's Fedor's fault, when common sense says he's the last one to blame. LOL @ U

And I never claimed to know anything about Fedor's best interest (even though it's obvious that he should want to fight Lesnar in addition to make a lot of money.) I was just shooting down your ridiculous assertions.

wow, youre insanely bad at reading comprehension. my whole point went over your head. also, "LOL @ U", "Seriously just GTFO", "stop spewing BS", etc is just unnecessary in general, but extra silly in the context of your 14 y/o fanboy rhetoric. i am done with you.

Yes, I'm the one who started with the unnecessary-ness, you called someone an oblivious fanboy without any reasoning. No one claimed that Fedor has no part in this, but we already know that there are people who want to leech off his success and we also know how greedy the UFC is. There is no reason to place Fedor's blame anywhere close to that of the UFC or M-1, (after all, Fedor is the guy generating all this money) or call it "one in the same" when the rumors asking for the money to go to M-1 and not Fedor indicate they are far from "one in the same."

Apparently, Strikeforce is offering Fedor between 500K-1M a fight. There are different sources saying different things. And they are willing to co-promote every event and have a non-exclusive deal, which surprises me but only a little.

They want to get him on CBS, apparently.

Clearly they have been wise enough to want a product like this in their portfolio for a while. Fedor is a better bet than Kimbo was for them to be sure.

Well thats what Vadim keeps saying so i guess that is the case.

you're all lucky you weren't around for the rickson sakuraba rumors or you'd have had multiple heart attacks

LOL

Rickson by armbar or Sakuraba by flying double hammerfist... hmm

hahaha McCully pretty much just confirmed on Jukie radio that a Tito/Coleman fight is in the works.

Prediction: 47 double-leg takedowns in 15 minutes

Thomson/Melendez off the Strikeforce card.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/15682/mits...orce-event.mma

fedor would be crazy not to take 1m to submit rogers in 44 seconds on national TV especially with gus johnson there to scream about how incredible he si

oh god this might be my least anticipated fight of all time

i guess i'm rooting for mark coleman to make a completely inexplicable title run at this point

i enjoyed this summary of UFC 100:

Chinese Guy on Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir UFC 100

http://www.cracked.com/blog/10-mixed...-doll-physics/

this article is bringing some lols

I don't know how Travis Fulton vs. Jeremy Bullock didn't get #1. It's not even close. Everything about that fight screams ragdoll.

Yea I'm the one you called a oblivious fanboy. I am nowhere near a Fedor nuthugger btw, just letting people know its not just Fedor turning down that "insane" offer from the ufc its M1 on the whole (also why I said he could just leave M1 and take the offer which is obv why there is more to the story) so yea next time just don't go throwing insults, I'm just trying to curb the "omfg Fedor is obv just ducking good fighters hes overrated" camp.

Clearly I've been thinking about Fedor and the UFC too much lately.

I had a dream last night that I was there with Fedor & Company plus Dana when the deal got signed. $10million a fight, 6 fight deal. And they wanted 10% in advance, so Dana was writting a $6 million check and took a picture for his twitter. Fedor laughed and said he was going to get it cashed and bet it all on red.

Maybe I should lay off the cold medicine.

Lol, now I don't feel so bad for having the alarm set for 2 PM ET so I'll be sure to remember tuning in to Dana's press conference.

In the newly established fine tradition of DannyOcean to copy/paste posts originally made on the UG, here's a rant I just posted about the UFC/M-1/Fedor situation:

Conjecture much? I mean, your argument isn't unreasonable and there's likely at least some truth to it, but then again, maybe not. Yes, Fedor is clearly a very intelligent fighter, but that doesn't necessarily translate into business acumen. Do you know him personally? Do you know the nature of his relationship with M-1 and whether or not there are mafia ties involved further complicating matters? Russia is corrupt as all **** so the latter wouldn't really surprise me the least.

But then again, I don't ****ing know, and that's kind of the point here. NONE of you do, but everyone and their grandmother sure as hell seem to know exactly where to place the blame.

Consider Dana White. Why is he always the hero or the villain? Why can't he be a little bit of both? It's pretty clear that he's somewhat of a compulsive liar, evidenced by enough contradictory statements to make the Bible look like a scientific paper, and the fact that he prefaces every other sentence with "Honestly, truly honestly, I swear I'm telling the truth this time" or some such. But then again, you gotta give the guy credit for his role in building the UFC to what it is today, his apprehensions about TUF notwithstanding.

Then there's M-1. From the moment I read the initial press statement where they said they'd only make a deal based on co-promotion conditions, I realized they were ****ing ******ed. I mean, it's just damned stupid. They have to know that the UFC won't even consider it, so it's stupid even as a business negotiation strategy; far better to attack something more realistic if they'd want to squeeze more net $ out of the contract. Anyway, so they're ****ing ******s, and Jerry Millen's obliviously stupid interview basically confirms it.

Then there's the contract. So some info obviously got leaked to the media from UFC, which may or may not be totally accurate. What seems pretty clear is that the 6 x $5 mill per fight figure is at the very best poor communication between UFC source <> Carmichael, and at worst deliberately misleading. So I don't really blame people suspecting nefarious motives, but think about it a little. Does it really make sense for UFC to deliberately mislead the public about the details of the offered contract? To achieve, what, exactly? They have to know that misrepresenting the contract offered would lead to a backlash, and possibly make a future signing of Fedor all that much harder even if contract talks already had failed at the time of the leak. Occam's razor suggests that this is simply shoddy work from either or both of UFC and Carmichael.

And btw, $30 mill total for 6 fights sounds like a perfectly reasonable estimate depending on the PPV cut and other bonuses. You don't really need that much of an active imagination to see the marketability of Fedor and what the UFC hype machine can do with him. Basically, Affliction did a completely ******ed job in terms of hyping their events and fighters, so you can hardly extrapolate much from the fact that Fedor-headlined Affliction events sold poorly. I mean, really.

And then there's the man himself, Fedor. People sure seems to know a lot about him. I mean, so he owns 20% in M-1? Anybody seen documentation confirming this? In his latest Sherdog interview it sure sounded a lot more like he's just got a contractual relationship with them, as he was talking about being contracted to 3 more fights with them before he could do anything else. And what exactly is the value of 20% in M-1 compared to a $30 mill contract with the UFC? What is M-1's value without Fedor? See where I'm going with this?

Cliffs: You all know **** all, Dana is a clown, M-1 are ******s, Fedor is Fedor, and I'm pissed off.

Here's another one by Seanbaby (title has censored word in it)

http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-top-...oments-in-mma/

Quick MMA/Boxing Q-Why is there so much time between fights for a fighter? Does training for a fight push you to such a limit you need a few months to cool down?

seanbaby is hilarious
and has a hot gf

Usually the state athletic commission puts a length of time before a fighter can train or do physical sparring based on damage taken during the fight. If a fighter breaks his hand, he has to avoid working out and contact drills until he is medically cleared. If a fighter get's KO'd, then it's a mandatory suspension from training until medically cleared.

Also, fighters usually go through an 8 week training camp to prepare for a fight. So when a fighter takes a fight on short notice they are usually at a considerable disadvantage since they need to cut the weight, look at opponents tapes, and get a camp set up to train against their opponents abilities.

There's the 'typical' 1 month Athletic Commission requirement, and 2 months to train = fighters fight every 3 or 4 months.

both of those articles made me laugh a bunch