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07-23-2009 , 02:49 PM
I just looked at the usa today rankings on BE. How did Kenflo jump to #2? It's not like he's had any fights recently.

And why is aoki behind alvarez

I don't know why Kid yamamoto is even ranked at FW. I love him, but he has no recent wins and is clearly no longer a top contender for anything.
07-23-2009 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Count Chocula
I hope they still fight. I really want to see one last Wanderlei KO.
Did you mean giving or receiving the KO?

Plus, you may have just found reason #1,456,792 to not bother with the USA Today...the world's largest middle school quality newspaper.
07-23-2009 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyKongSr
I'd love to see Monson. The guy's a pretty damn good fighter, he's mostly just limited by his size. Hell, if his arms were a couple inches longer, he probably would have beat Sylvia for the UFC title. He's got some decent names on his wins list (including Kharitonov & Nelson within 2 weeks with a fight in between) and his recent losses (only Sylvia, Rizzo, Barnett in the last 7 years) are against pretty good fighters. If he was bigger, he'd be a top 10 HW.
monson would be the most logical fight and probably the best one that doesn't destroy the card. Not sure that Affliction is smart enough to do that though

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Originally Posted by JohnnyPark1
***UPDATE: Not so fast, according to Silva’s manager via Fighter’s Only Magazine:

“The rumors about Wanderlei fighting Michael Bisping at UFC 105 in Manchester or at any point are simply that, rumors. For some publication to say they have been given an exclusive statement on this from Team Wand is not truthful. This fight has not been discussed or offered to us by the UFC. Wand’s preference is to fight in February. He wants to take time off to heal his body and mind, and with his new gym in Las Vegas, he has business affairs and a growing team to attend to.”

Damnit.


oh well, hopefully it does get put together. At worst it'd be a fun fight to watch. Wandy may be on the downside of his career, but he can still bring it and if Bisping isn't ready, he'll have suffered his second highlight reel KO in a row
07-23-2009 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by zacd
After reading more about the steroid fiasco on Bloody Elbow, I am shocked at how incompetent the state athletic commissions are. I knew they were bad but this is beyond ridiculous.

First of all the Barnett test was "random", but it was the first time CSAC had ever done it. Apparently the steroid in question can be cycled out of your system in ~3 weeks so he was probably going to test clean for the usual, event-time test. Obviously it seems like the logical thing to do is to have more out of competition tests.

Also NSAC doesn't usually do out of competition tests either and they definitely didn't do it for UFC 100. So every fighter on UFC 100 could have been using the exact same PED that Barnett used but we'll never know. If cycling is this effective I hope the AC's start testing all fighters under UFC/Affliction/Strikeforce/etc contract randomly throughout the year as opposed to just at the time of a fight. The fighters have figured out how to pass those tests.
Lets slow down with the UFC didnt have to take tests boldness lol.

From what i understand (and i could be wrong) CSAC just recently started this new out of competition testing just recently. Cali has the only AC doing this currently. Im guessing Barnett didnt know this And in that time UFC has had no shows in Cali so that is why no ufc fighters have been tested.

Again i could be wrong but thats what it sounds like to me. I like this new testing policy and i hope they get it right and other states adopt it. Every fighter on every card gets tested weeks out and on the night of fight.

Last edited by okterrific; 07-23-2009 at 04:46 PM.
07-23-2009 , 04:48 PM
I'm not trying to sympathize with Barnett or anything. It's just that the AC's aren't doing enough to ensure fighters are clean. And it should have been adopted years ago. As I understand it, many past positive tests (such as Sherk's) appeared to be the result of improper cycling so the logical thing to do would be to start testing out of competition.

Or, at least, just perform stricter testing for those who have been caught in the past. Bonnar, for example, had to undergo the same testing procedures as everyone else on the card which I think is BS.

Sidenote (speaking of former juicers....): SHOGUNITES MOUNT UP: Squats and deads = healthy knee! (he should go down a lil' lower on those squats tho )
07-23-2009 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by okterrific
Lets slow down with the UFC didnt have to take tests boldness lol.

From what i understand (and i could be wrong) CSAC just recently started this new out of competition testing just recently. Cali has the only AC doing this currently. Im guessing Barnett didnt know this And in that time UFC has had no shows in Cali so that is why no ufc fighters have been tested.

Again i could be wrong but thats what it sounds like to me. I like this new testing policy and i hope they get it right and other states adopt it. Every fighter on every card gets tested weeks out and on the night of fight.
i read that you have to take the test in order to get a license to fight in california to begin with, which the UFC 100 fighters obviously already had taken care of - cant really confirm this since barnett fought in anaheim july 2008 :S

edit: meaning a "basic" license which then have to be renewed or whatever. i have never fought in CA so whadafuk do i know, read it on sherdog i think

Last edited by luegofuego; 07-23-2009 at 05:04 PM.
07-23-2009 , 04:59 PM
I hope Affliction gets their head out of their ass and sign Jeff Monson to fight Fedor and leave Belfort to fight Santiago. Theres no great options at his point but i think Monson is the best option (not for Belforts bottom line) and most legit HW available out there.

Just read this on mma junkie and it makes sense. And wow look at how much Affliction is willing to pay someone to fight Fedor. Cant imagine why this companys going under.
http://mmajunkie.com/news/15607/jeff...melianenko.mma
07-23-2009 , 05:03 PM
Monson is perfect and better happen. Should have a good chance since no one wants Vitor as the replacement and Monson will insta-agree to any terms and conditions.
07-23-2009 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by okterrific
I hope Affliction gets their head out of their ass and sign Jeff Monson to fight Fedor and leave Belfort to fight Santiago. Theres no great options at his point but i think Monson is the best option (not for Belforts bottom line) and most legit HW available out there.

Just read this on mma junkie and it makes sense. And wow look at how much Affliction is willing to pay someone to fight Fedor. Cant imagine why this companys going under.
http://mmajunkie.com/news/15607/jeff...melianenko.mma
I loved this part...

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"I've never been about the money," the 38-year-old said. "I just like to fight. I'm a fighter. It's what I do for a living. More (money) is better, of course. I have kids. But I just want to fight. If you win and beat Fedor, you never have to worry about it (money) again."
07-23-2009 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyKongSr
I loved this part...
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"I've never been about the money," the 38-year-old said. "I just like to fight. I'm a fighter. It's what I do for a living. More (money) is better, of course. I have kids. But I just want to fight."
Yeah i think this is Jeff Monson campaigning for this fight hard.

Hes like "hey man Belfort wants 800k+ so hey ill do it for a beer and a sandwich ... oh and im a legit HW and hes a MW soooo uuuugh why am i even begging?"

Really this is so stupid and obv that Monson should be getting this fight @ this point. ugh Affliction annoys me so much.

Last edited by okterrific; 07-23-2009 at 05:31 PM.
07-23-2009 , 05:26 PM
Unless Monson's playing hardball behind the scenes, there should be no reason he doesn't get this fight.
07-23-2009 , 06:14 PM
"I left a cup of lion's blood and some cobra venom for [Buehrle] at the mound to throw a no-hitter. That's how I roll." - Chicago native and WEC champ Miguel Torres
07-23-2009 , 06:25 PM
"A source close to Kongo informed Sportsnet that the French striker is tentatively scheduled to face Frank Mir at UFC 107 in Memphis, TN."

Source: http://www.sportsnet.ca/mma/2009/07/..._silva_ufc105/

I would enjoy this matchup.
07-23-2009 , 06:55 PM
kongo wouldnt.
07-23-2009 , 07:07 PM
i really dont care about jeff monson fighting fedor. hes not very exciting and he doesn't have a chance of winning.
07-23-2009 , 07:09 PM
so annoying that mir is getting a heavyweight he should tool. wish they would let gonzaga beat him up instead
07-23-2009 , 07:26 PM
yeah seriously, monson would do take this fight for a donut. I don't understand why they don't just give him the fight.
07-23-2009 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gehrig
i really dont care about jeff monson fighting fedor. hes not very exciting and he doesn't have a chance of winning.
monson has no chance, but somehow vitor belfort has a chance? he dropped down to middleweight for a reason. If he can't beat alistair overeem at lhw in 2 tries, he can not even touch fedor.

I think the best strategy to use against Fedor is a smothering top game. Something that Monson is very good at.
07-23-2009 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gehrig
i really dont care about jeff monson fighting fedor. hes not very exciting and he doesn't have a chance of winning.


And if Affliction was putting together a Fedor fight for 10 months from now no one would be hoping for a Monson/Fedor matchup. LDO. But Affliction is trying to put a Fedor fight together in a week.

What fighters are in shape, able to fight for affliction, and not currently a MW? Give us some names that match up with what affliction needs and have him ready in a week. Right now Monson is @ the top of the list. imo
07-23-2009 , 07:33 PM
Or at least he should be. But it doesn't seem like Affliction is considering him at all. I've read no reports about anyone in Affliction even mentioning Monson's name. For some reason, they're pretending that they're trying to get Brett Rogers still when its clear that Strikeforce is not going to loan him out right now.
07-23-2009 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyPark1
"A source close to Kongo informed Sportsnet that the French striker is tentatively scheduled to face Frank Mir at UFC 107 in Memphis, TN."

Source: http://www.sportsnet.ca/mma/2009/07/..._silva_ufc105/

I would enjoy this matchup.
It would probably look similar to Mir/Hardonk... Kongo's ground game is slightly better than Hardonk's, but not significantly so.
07-23-2009 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Count Chocula
monson has no chance, but somehow vitor belfort has a chance? he dropped down to middleweight for a reason. If he can't beat alistair overeem at lhw in 2 tries, he can not even touch fedor.

I think the best strategy to use against Fedor is a smothering top game. Something that Monson is very good at.
monson isnt gonna submit fedor and he isnt gonna knock him out anywhere. he needs to lay on top of him all fight when he's going to struggle to take him down at all

vitor has some chance of knocking fedor out
07-23-2009 , 07:42 PM
Monson holding down Fedor for five rounds might be more shocking than a flash KO.
07-23-2009 , 08:26 PM
I live super close to Memphis and am very interested in going to 107. What's the best/cheapest way to acquire tickets?
07-23-2009 , 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyPatriot
Monson holding down Fedor for five rounds might be more shocking than a flash KO.
Has Fedor ever even been knocked down by a punch before?

      
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