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GSP is my hero. Is there any doubt that he would be able to take Anderson down if they fought? Keeping him down is another issue.

Also Brock is a tool and I really can't stand him. I watched the fight at the MGM Grand Garden Arena and most of the place was booing him and it made me happy. Fedor kick his ass one time please.

But chances are you will glued to his next fight screaming at the top of your lungs for him to lose...... seems like he knows what he is doing

07-12-2009 , 07:14 AM

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gehrig

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<3 brock <3 <3 <3

marquardt and hendo both have legit shots at silva. im not even sure gsp does if he only weighs 183 now

07-12-2009 , 09:00 AM

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Am I crazy for thinking that if Fedor actually came to the UFC, Brock would take care of him almost easily?

07-12-2009 , 09:05 AM

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Am I crazy for thinking that if Fedor actually came to the UFC, Brock would take care of him almost easily?

nobody anywhere ever takes care of fedor easily

07-12-2009 , 09:15 AM

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icepick

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Originally Posted by rock-steady

nobody anywhere ever takes care of fedor easily

But imagine the epicness of the nuthugers head's exploding if he did.

07-12-2009 , 09:39 AM

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I would say the fight would be almost even if they fought now, but each day that passes the pendulum swings more in Brock's favor, and by the time they actually could fight, which would be a year at the soonest, Brock will be the favorite.

07-12-2009 , 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MegaFossil

It looks like 4 of the 5 belts won't be lost anytime soon, now all we need is BJ to dismantle Florian and all 5 belts probably won't change hands for the next 2 years. The only way I see it happening unless it's some fluke KO (i.e. Serra) is if someone wins a 2nd belt in a different weight class.
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Not sure if this qualfies as a Slow Pony or not, but in the May Thread I wrote...

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One of the things I was thinking about is that, if after UFC 100 no titles change hands, we could be entering an era with the most dominating champions across all UFC weight classes. Never before do I remember a more impressive group than the following:

HW: Lesnar
LHW: Machida
MW: Silva
WW: GSP
LW: Penn

I think an interesting exercise is a rank-ordering of the current crop of champions based on likelihood of losses. My best guess:

1) Lesnar: A super tough and super scary dude who could one day be practically invincible, but only ranked first on account of *relative* inexperience (mostly in the area of submission defense)

2) Penn: At #2 mainly because of past work ethic/overall drive & hunger. Though he's a dog, KF might find a way to outwork Penn and pull off an upset.

3) GSP: Will take someone w/heavy hands and sick takedown defense to stop the best wrestler in MMA. Matt Serra proved GSP can get knocked out; beating him will take another freak instance like that.

4) Silva: Someone will have to do 5 rounds to AS what Dan Henderson did for round 1 of their March '08 fight. Not likely anytime soon.

5) Machida: No opponent has done anything with any effectiveness in any fight against him (Tito's failed triangle maybe?) Hard to say someone is virtually unbeatable, but...wait a minute, yes I am. Machida is unbeatable, and of the 5 current champions is least likely to lose his title.

That said, I definitely agree that we're entering unseen waters in UFC History where one dude stands to absolutely clean out each of his respective divisions, which will lead to more calls for interdivisional or catchweight "Superfights" like what was tried w/Penn and GSP in January. GSP/Silva, or my personal dream fight, Machida/Silva come to mind (the latter since I have ZERO clue how to handicap it)

Oh, and FWIW, in the wake of UFC 100, I'd switch Lesnar and Penn around, and possibly put GSP ahead of Lesnar. Because if he executes each fight in the same disciplined manner as he did w/Mir (i.e. only going committing to takedowns which give him a large edge on the ground) it's going to be really tough to see someone beating him.

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07-12-2009 , 11:07 AM

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Good interview with with Brock at ufc.com. Appears very calm and humble (compared to usual spotlight interviews). Cements the idea that he played up the whole "heel" angle, reminded everyone that people payed good money to see.

Yeah, Lesnar is obviously heeling it up to get the crowd riled up. Even wrestlers "bad" at interviews by WWE standards can give great interviews by UFC standards (also see Ken Shamrock).

07-12-2009 , 11:27 AM

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ActionFreak

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Originally Posted by MegaFossil

No way Brock will be the favorite vs Fedor.

07-12-2009 , 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EAT IT PAL

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=Vide...home&gid=21199

just a pussy hair short of half way through

wow i have an erection....nice to see dana not being a dick in regards to the fedor question. pls pls pls happen before fedor is like 36

07-12-2009 , 12:29 PM

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sublime

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Originally Posted by Debo9

Am I crazy for thinking that if Fedor actually came to the UFC, Brock would take care of him almost easily?

gee lets see, hes fought 31 MMA fights and never 'really' lost (i have read one of his early decisions was very debatable), so yeah thats a little crazy

i will say that the more i see of lesnar the less confident i am F will beat him...i am still fairly confident he will though.

07-12-2009 , 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by steel108

But chances are you will glued to his next fight screaming at the top of your lungs for him to lose...... seems like he knows what he is doing

If he wanted to be booed to make more money he should have stayed in WWE where he would make around 3-4 times what he is making per year in the UFC.

07-12-2009 , 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gehrig

marquardt and hendo both have legit shots at silva. im not even sure gsp does if he only weighs 183 now

I'm pretty sure his walk around weight is about 190. But even if it isn't, I bet he could bulk up to a non-fat 200 for a fight with Silva pretty easily. I think GSP's biggest disadvantage against Silva would be reach, not weight, because he would be more vulnerable to strikes and would have to shoot from further out than he usually does. But I think GSP would have a legit shot, especially since Silva seems to be losing some of his killer instinct. He can't just jab and leg kick the way through the fight like he did against Cote and Leites because he has to worry about GSP going up on the scorecrds with takedowns.

07-12-2009 , 01:19 PM

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zer0

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Originally Posted by sublime

gee lets see, hes fought 31 MMA fights and never 'really' lost (i have read one of his early decisions was very debatable), so yeah thats a little crazy

i will say that the more i see of lesnar the less confident i am F will beat him...i am still fairly confident he will though.

his only loss is because of a cut almost 10 years ago, not a decision (unless you know that and are saying the decision to stop the fight was debatable)

07-12-2009 , 01:23 PM

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he's talking about the arona fight

07-12-2009 , 02:02 PM

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How close was Hunt to submitting Fedor in their fight?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2iifFWyY8Q

Didn't seem like Fedor was concerned by the submission attempts at all.

07-12-2009 , 02:33 PM

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zer0

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Originally Posted by zyrrth

he's talking about the arona fight

oh gotcha, one of his wins being debatable

07-12-2009 , 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rock-steady

nobody anywhere ever takes care of fedor easily

QFT

That will be a fight of the ages.

07-12-2009 , 02:46 PM

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jon jones looked really good vs o'brien. kept his distance standing and picked him apart. o'brien just wanted to take him down and jones made him look bad whenever he tried.

i can see jones as a favorite over all but maybe 5-6 guys in that division

07-12-2009 , 03:20 PM

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Jones' striking defense was suspect last night but he brought it up himself in the post-fight so it's good to see that he is aware of his flaws. Like so many up and comers though he needs to get into a real camp. There is only so far you can go training out of upstate New York and your best training partner is a 170lb Tamdan McCrory. He's the most promising prospect in the division by a longshot and he's so so young. I hope he stays smart and makes the right decisions.

07-12-2009 , 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gusmahler

How close was Hunt to submitting Fedor in their fight?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2iifFWyY8Q

Didn't seem like Fedor was concerned by the submission attempts at all.

no he didnt seem bothered at all by the subs...however i think we were shown here what a skilled guy with extra weight can do vs fedor. i love this fedor is clearly not at his best here yet BAM fight over.

07-12-2009 , 04:20 PM

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sublime

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a day he drank his coffee....god i love this man...maybe in a gay way

07-12-2009 , 04:23 PM

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sixtwo

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Originally Posted by MegaFossil

It's weird b/c if Penn can take care of Florian, then it might be a long time until we see a champ who isn't at least a -300 favorite.

I dont think Penn (assuming he beats florian) will be a -300 favorite against sanchez.

07-12-2009 , 04:28 PM

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luegofuego

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id tanke sanchez on that line easy.

07-12-2009 , 04:33 PM

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Anyone know what weight Fedor walks at? How big of a weight difference would Lesnar/Fedor be?

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