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Old 03-25-2019, 06:04 PM   #2126
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In principle I'm very pro small businesses in our huge shopping malls, franchised conglomerates world. For example, I cook real, actual food out of real, actual ingredients (from the local farmers market if possible), which so few people seem to be doing these days, opting instead for the quick pre-packaged frozen meals or Mackie Ds poison "food". I maintain my own sourdoughs to bake my own bread instead of eating that supermarket (or franchised "bakery") ****e, etc.

Unfortunately however, small movie theatres are still full of obnoxious ****s. So I'm going to have to nope out of supporting them.
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Old 03-26-2019, 01:47 AM   #2127
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I liked Sugar Man for the nice feelgood story. Reading afterwards that most of it was made up didn't really change that. It's still a nice feelgood story. A fictitious one, alright. But that doesn't bother me too much.
Saw it many years ago - liked the music - & the story, but it doesn't surprise me that u found out much of it was made up.

I think that society and culture at large - u do some real research and find out most/many things are not what they seem to be because someone has an agenda & always the number one investigative tool....follow the money.

Yea - so many movies that are based on real stories seem to just have a piece of the real story. I have read about so many of them "based on a real story". One of them I found funny was Dallas Buyers Club (which I liked).

When reading the trivia section at iMDB one of the trivia items is this:

The "Rayon" and "Eve" characters did not exist in real life.

So two of the top 3 characters were just made up. And Jared Leto won the Best Supporting Actor Oscar for a character (Rayon) that did not exist. And I think Jennifer Garner was up for best supporting for Eve who did not exist.

Still like to hear if anybody saw either of these documentaries.....Gleason or Blackfish.

I have seen them - but not researched either. Although I think both of these are about as true as they get.

If anybody saw either - what did you think of them.
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Old 03-26-2019, 03:40 AM   #2128
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Yeah, I watch documentaries for entertainment purposes, not to get "informed" (unless it's a science doc, I guess).

I always chuckle when people get into heated arguments about whether that guy from Making a Murderer is guilty or not, when all their information is coming from the doc itself. It should be pretty clear that what you see on the screen in these docs is - at best - never the whole story, and at worst full of made up bs.

I loved Making a Murderer, though. Entertaining as ****.
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Old 03-30-2019, 06:43 PM   #2129
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As u can see, I don't post often relative to my join date - but when I do some tend to be fairly long. So if u don't like longish - just skip on by.

I watch lots of docs if they are interesting & well made. One they are showing a lot on HBO these days is the story of Elizabeth Holmes which is titled THE INVENTOR: OUT FOR BLOOD IN SILICON VALLEY.

One of the producers is Alex Gibney who has become involved in lots of good doc's for quite some time now. The one he did about Scientology is very good. Most folks probably know that the little aggressive leader of this CULT (as opposed to religion - that went through tons of lawsuits with the IRS to be called a religion so they wouldn't have to pay taxes on their vast wealth) David Miscavage who is a little psycho.

He loves to trot out his 2 big Hollywood celeb's Tom Cruise and John Travolta as members. They gotta have a lot of dirt on these guys because the Scientology story is the most bizarre cult/religion story ever - & of course it was started by L. Ron Hubbard who wrote sci-fi short stories for little pulp magazines in the 50's & wrote the Dianetics book (in the 60's) which became a best seller.

This is the crazy Scientology story in a nutshell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

Back to Holmes & her company

https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/th...theranos-panel

I'm sure some folks here have seen this doc about how Holmes conned her way into getting them to believe that she was another Gates or Jobs. Her thing was blood withdrawal. Instead of the withdrawal where 3 to 4 tubes is taken in a venous manner.

Her company would just need a drop of blood from a finger prick to evaluate the health of an individual to the tune of over 200 indicators of health issues caught so early they could be cured or abated.

So her personality and looks (which ironically is like a female Dracula) & lineage (like how they indicate which horses will be born strong from parents were great race horses) enables her to get very wealthy white men (including investors and board members like former Secretary of State George Schultz whose grandson Tyler worked for Holmes company & told his grandfather that he had deduced the whole thing was a scam & GS still would not believe him until the whole scam finally fell like a deck of cards).

So she had gotten her company valued at 9 billion which she started dropping out of Stanford at 19 & at 31 it was valued at the price above & when the indisputable truth of it all came out about 4 years later when the company's true value was found to be NOTHING (A Big Goose Egg).

She and her boyfriend & CEO of her company "Sunny" were charged with FRAUD & CONSPIRACY & she dumped him (he was like 25-30 years older). It was really something the number of older white men who bought in to her story (including Bill Clinton & experienced Venture Capitalist types).

She got 100's of millions of dollars from them.

ANYWAY - WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ANY THOUGHTS OR INSIGHTS FROM OTHER FOLKS WHO HAVE SEEN THIS DOCUMENTARY.

P.S. - I found in another documentary that the giant Corporations who make medical devices rake in more dough & have more pull than Big Pharma which I found hard to believe.

Although I think the biggest one's deal in both & they lobby our puppet political hacks that spend more time raising money for their next election than they do on trying to help their constituents. The politicians aren't allowed to be fund raising from their "official offices.

So their is a designated building close by where many days 3/4's of their time is devoted to them & their staffers contacting donors from the "official" building set up for this function.

P.P.S. - At the end of the movie "The Post" with Spielberg, Hanks & Streep about THE PENTAGON PAPERS & VIETNAM, a written quote comes on the screen at the end of it which said this.

THE FREE PRESS IS TO SERVE THE GOVERNED - NOT THE GOVERNORS.

I think that this quote is just one of the endless things these days leading the
U.S.A.'s downward spiral or as my Mom used to say "To Hell in a Hand-basket".
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Old 03-30-2019, 07:34 PM   #2130
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that hurt my eyes and i didn't read it, but the consensus is the doc sucks and doesn't offer much beyond the short segment on 60 minutes a while back, but that the book is great:

https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Blood-Sec.../dp/152473165X

there's also a movie with j-law coming.
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Old 03-31-2019, 05:18 PM   #2131
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the book is great:

https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Blood-Sec.../dp/152473165X

there's also a movie with j-law coming.
I checked out your link & saw that the book was written by the Wall Street Journal reporter who broke the story (John Carreyrou) which left no doubt about her burning desire & monster ego to join the exclusive club of Gates, Jobs, etc.

Even though her ascension to get & try to stay there was just a house of cards/scam that had to come tumbling down.....& the only question was how long it was going to take.

Might give it a read considering that books almost always give u a better understanding of the topic.
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Old 04-06-2019, 02:18 AM   #2132
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How do you decide what to put in red?
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:36 AM   #2133
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How do you decide what to put in red?
I watch the movie ONE HOUR PHOTO.

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Old 04-10-2019, 07:57 AM   #2134
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That's some impressive posting for a 2004 join date.
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