Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Notices

EDF Interesting discussion of any and all topics, including Current Events, Entertainment, Politics, Art & Literature, Career, Hobbies, Lifestyle, Travel, Sports, and Gambling. Posts are expected to be intelligent, interesting, and respectful.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-01-2007, 04:04 AM   #176
Pete H
old hand
 
Pete H's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Between the Hammer & the Anvil
Posts: 1,299
Re: Documentaries

Quote:
Not sure if this counts but the Blue Planet: Seas of Life series is incredible. THat's narrated by David Attenborough I believe as well. Just amazing footage.
That's another good pick and yes, it's narrated by Attenborough.
Pete H is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2007, 09:19 AM   #177
Brocktoon
Unreada Bill
 
Brocktoon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 8,541
Re: Documentaries

I eluded to this earlier but I'll mention it again anyway.

Anyone here who has a Netflix acct can watch a lot of the movies mentioned in this thread instantly on their comp for free. Everyone gets a certain amount of free "watch now" hours per month, a lot of hours FWIW.


They have Word Wars, Game Over: Kasparov vs. the Machine, Dark Days, Crumb, Street Fight, and Supersize Me among others. I've watched all of them (except street fight) after reading this thread
Brocktoon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 01:32 PM   #178
MicroBob
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
MicroBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 61,582
Re: Documentaries

This morning on IFC I've been watching "One Day In September" about the 1972 Olympic hostage crisis including footage of ABC's live coverage of the event and interviews with the participants in the crisis.

Jim McKay was the exhausted and emotionally drained anchor at ABC who was supposed to just be covering the Olympic games but had to quickly switch to the role of news-reporter.

A young Peter Jennings was phoning in reports of what he could observe on the grounds.


The whole film is extremely well done.


-- "In 1972, athletes from around the globe gathered in Munich, Germany for the Olympic Games. However, the Olympic spirit of brotherhood and peaceful competition was shattered when eight Palestinian terrorists invaded the athletes' quarters to take the Israeli team hostage, resulting in the violent deaths of eleven athletes. In One Day in September, director Kevin Macdonald mixes newsreel coverage of the tragedy with interviews of witnesses and participants (including Jamil Al Gashey, the only surviving member of the terrorist cadre Black September who were responsible for the killings), as they discuss what happened, and how a dangerous situation turned tragic and deadly . Produced by two-time Oscar winner Arthur Cohn,One Day in September earned Cohn another trophy when it received an Academy Award as Best Documentary Feature."


This film is on again tonight at 5:30pm (eastern) and I will probably make sure to either watch the whole thing (haven't seen it from the start) and/or perhaps tape it.
MicroBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 02:46 PM   #179
troymclur
old hand
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,417
Re: Documentaries

Not your typical doc, but "The Blue Planet" is far and away the best ocean documentary i have ever seen. It's just stunning. It's in 7 parts, i believe, each covering a different section of ocean life, some of which are out of this world (almost literally). "The Deep" is one of the last sections, and will give you a true appreciation for the evolution of nature.

There are several creatures that have multi-colored lights on them, one even looks like a carousel. However the kicker was a certain underwater creature that would jettison a small, glowing ball from itself near its prey. The ball would burst in a bright flash, temporarily blinding the prey long enough for the creature to attack. This blew me away. Nature has created a [censored] flash bomb!

I recommend this series to any and everybody.
troymclur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 03:10 PM   #180
bkholdem
banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 6,055
Re: Documentaries

In case no one has mentioned these:

The Iceman and the Psychiatrist

and

The Iceman Tapes: Conversations with a Killer

These are 2 documentaries about Richard Kuklinski, who worked as a contract killer for the mob for many years. He started killing people in his teenage years and estimates that he has killed over 200 people. There might have been a 3rd one too.

Here's a clip:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=rBSDiCu4Bb8
bkholdem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 04:39 PM   #181
suzzer99
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
suzzer99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: on top of the bell curve
Posts: 82,798
Re: Documentaries

Quote:
Not your typical doc, but "The Blue Planet" is far and away the best ocean documentary i have ever seen.
Totally agreed, I love this series. They have a newer one called Life of Mammals that is also amazing.
suzzer99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 06:36 PM   #182
MicroBob
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
MicroBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 61,582
Re: Documentaries

Reminder - The 'One Day In September' documentary I posted about this morning is on again right now on IFC (Independent Film Channel). Just started.

My VCR is rolling (Beat - Don't have Tivo or DVR).
MicroBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 07:48 PM   #183
bkholdem
banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 6,055
Re: Documentaries

Quote:
All,

Sorta interesting that neither of these films have been mentioned yet. Both are worth watching, though not at the top of my list.

Fahrenheit 9/11 - Michael Moore documentary re; 9/11.


There is also a documentory titled 'FarenHYPE 9/11' which is a 'conservative' response to the 'liberal' Moore film. If you dislike Moore/Moore's politics you will proably love FarenHYPE 911 and if you love more you will probably not want to see the HYPE film. lol
bkholdem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 08:40 PM   #184
ImsaKidd
CHOO CHOO
 
ImsaKidd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: CHOO CHOO
Posts: 20,728
Re: Documentaries

Quote:
In case no one has mentioned these:

The Iceman and the Psychiatrist

and

The Iceman Tapes: Conversations with a Killer

These are 2 documentaries about Richard Kuklinski, who worked as a contract killer for the mob for many years. He started killing people in his teenage years and estimates that he has killed over 200 people. There might have been a 3rd one too.

Here's a clip:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=rBSDiCu4Bb8
The 2 full versions of this are on youtube.

Anyone got links to any documentaries on youtube? Didnt look through the whole thread, but I found the iceman stuff really interesting and would love to watch more.
ImsaKidd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 09:37 PM   #185
wet work
Pooh-Bah
 
wet work's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,650
Re: Documentaries

Quote:
Quote:
Not your typical doc, but "The Blue Planet" is far and away the best ocean documentary i have ever seen.
Totally agreed, I love this series. They have a newer one called Life of Mammals that is also amazing.
Definitely agree. The footage they've gathered has been amazing, to say the least. When it first came out I was blown away by it.
wet work is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2007, 11:02 PM   #186
Kermit
old hand
 
Kermit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: picture me foldin'
Posts: 1,889
Re: Documentaries

Quote:
CT: A bunch of those hooker/pimp documentaries on HBO are great. American Pimp is another documentary on that topic that's pretty entertaining.

ND: Pumping Iron and Hoop Dreams, two great picks.
Not sure if this documentary gets any additional attention in this thread. American Pimp is acutally a fairly well done documentary. However, any insight into the world of Pimpin' is grossly overshadowed by the onslaught of hilarious one liners and twisted logic. Its one of the most entertaining films i have ever seen.
Kermit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2007, 03:55 PM   #187
DirtyDiggs
adept
 
DirtyDiggs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,107
Re: Documentaries

Murder on a Sunday Morning was excellent.

Also I was a Big fan of Born Rich It was directed by Jamie Johnson, heir to the Johnson & Johnson fortune. Gives an interesting perspective in to young people with old money. A reminder that Fitzgeralds famous opening line is still true.
DirtyDiggs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2007, 04:36 PM   #188
troymclur
old hand
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,417
Re: Documentaries

Quote:
Quote:
CT: A bunch of those hooker/pimp documentaries on HBO are great. American Pimp is another documentary on that topic that's pretty entertaining.

ND: Pumping Iron and Hoop Dreams, two great picks.
Not sure if this documentary gets any additional attention in this thread. American Pimp is acutally a fairly well done documentary. However, any insight into the world of Pimpin' is grossly overshadowed by the onslaught of hilarious one liners and twisted logic. Its one of the most entertaining films i have ever seen.
The Pimp War segment was gold. For those who haven't seen it, a legendary pimp, one that doesn't his his bitches i might add, goes to gain new turf in Miami (i think) and a rival pimp steals all his ho's, but the guy is like 'what ev!' and brings out a whole new line of bitches. A choice quote: "those were just his second string bitches!".
troymclur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2007, 04:38 PM   #189
troymclur
old hand
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,417
Re: Documentaries

This site has 419 documentaries available for free, including 'Born Rich'.
troymclur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2007, 05:02 PM   #190
Runkmud
veteran
 
Runkmud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,109
Re: Documentaries

Quote:
This site has 419 documentaries available for free, including 'Born Rich'.
Wow! Great find, thanks!
Runkmud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2007, 05:53 PM   #191
Mister Z
adept
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TEBOW!!!
Posts: 949
Re: Documentaries

I haven't had time to read through this whole list yet, but there's a really amazing documentary about Ernest Shackleton. I'm not sure if it's The Endurance or Shackleton's Antarctic Adventure, but it's an amazing story about how a crew of 28 struggle to survive after their ship gets stuck in the ice in Antarctica. It's an incredible story about so many things but survival in particular.
Mister Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-08-2007, 10:45 PM   #192
inside??
old hand
 
inside??'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Kick\'in AZ
Posts: 1,705
Re: Documentaries

Has anyone mentioned "Long Way Round?" It has the highest rating I have ever seen on IMDB. It is like Endless Summer only on motorcycles. AWESOME!
inside?? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2007, 01:20 AM   #193
The DaveR
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
The DaveR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: You stay there
Posts: 19,161
Re: Documentaries

Quote:

Don't Look Back - Amazing Pennebaker doc on Dylan's late-60s UK tour.
Don't Look Back is great. Watching it there's this feeling that everything in the movie has dated except Dylan.
The DaveR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2007, 01:27 AM   #194
The DaveR
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
The DaveR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: You stay there
Posts: 19,161
Re: Documentaries

Quote:

i just got born into brothels and control room (about al jazeera) from netflix.
I saw Born Into Brothels in the theater and thought it was very good, even though some of the things were a bit cliched as documentaries go. I think that documentaries with kids at the right age really can't go wrong.
The DaveR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2007, 01:34 AM   #195
Rootabager
banned
 
Rootabager's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Lexington KY
Posts: 4,180
Re: Documentaries

Best doc. ever made is called The Dancing Outlaw: Jesco White.

It was made about this redneck from Boone County West Virginia. I cant explain how great and funny this video is. You can get it off the internet and I promise you will not be dissapointed.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid =59550249

This myspace page has a clip at the bottom that is so hilarious. It's really the funniest video that has ever been made. You guys really need to see it.
Rootabager is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2007, 06:46 AM   #196
Schaefer
adept
 
Schaefer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Seattle
Posts: 788
Re: Documentaries

I'll probably receive a lot of flack for this but I really enjoyed Shut Up & Sing, a documentary about the Dixie Chicks and their battle with the suits of country music. They made some anti-Bush comments at the beginning of the conflict in Iraq and were blackballed from a ton of country music stations. I think it's definitely worth seeing.
Schaefer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2007, 09:42 AM   #197
Goofy G.Goof
newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 25
Re: Documentaries

~ Over Canada an Aerial Adventure ~
Very little narration, but absolutely breath taking footage...most shot from a helicopter. The music chosen to accompany the exploration of the various regions is as beautiful as the scenery. The sounds and imagery will leave you with a greater appreciation for the immense size of the country and the stark comparison of so much landscape.

It aired on PBS in 1999-2000. I ordered a copy of the video and still enjoy popping it in now and then. It's almost therapeutic
Goofy G.Goof is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2007, 03:01 PM   #198
ImsaKidd
CHOO CHOO
 
ImsaKidd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: CHOO CHOO
Posts: 20,728
Re: Documentaries

Quote:
This site has 419 documentaries available for free, including 'Born Rich'.
wowowowowowoow. I owe you bigtime.
ImsaKidd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2007, 04:46 PM   #199
Kermit
old hand
 
Kermit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: picture me foldin'
Posts: 1,889
Re: Documentaries

Yes, that would be the great Filmore Slim (name after Filmore Street in San Francisco).
Kermit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-09-2007, 04:55 PM   #200
NajdorfDefense
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
NajdorfDefense's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Looking forward to AA
Posts: 16,167
Re: Documentaries

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Who Killed the Electric Car? - a great look at the EV1 that GM produced (as well as other electric cars), their amazing potential to redefine driving in america, and how they were quietly killed by a combination of... well i guess you must watch it to see.
...their 75-150 mi driving limit on an 8-hr charge, and top speed of 80?
Something not mentioned in the film at all- just a thought. I don't know anyone who would want to drive in LA or NJ or DC with a car that maxes out after a few hours of driving.

According to GM, fully costed these would have been $80k, which you can debate, but is still awfully high for a car that only 800 people leased at half that price or less 10 years ago. These were 'quietly killed' by lack of demand.
It wasn't lack of demand that killed them. Also, keep in mind the technology was rapidly improving and prices would obviously have come way down. We could all be driving 500+ mile electric cars today if the auto companies, state of CA, and the federal government wanted us to. They already had 300 mile versions ready at the time GM pulled the plug.
From the always yummy Equity Private:
'

Since joining Sub Rosa, I have had occasion to review any number of NFDs. A common theme in major "green" or "socially responsible" projects is that when someone finally bothers to study the larger impact of the technology or product it becomes painfully obvious that the product or technology is either astonishingly impractical or has a more substantial negative impact on, e.g., the environment than the "non-Green" alternatives already in the marketplace. If this pattern appears regular in SRI or Green projects, I believe it is because of this miasma effect. It is, however, easy to avoid the miasma effect. Ask what the pricing mechanism is for the product. Is it the market, or something else that is setting pricing?

Let's take an example. Trying to get back into the swing of work I have been researching hybrid cars, a project I began last spring related to some parts manufacturers we were considering acquisitions of. Some interesting things came out. Ford, for example, was at one point taking losses on every hybrid they sold. I haven't seen recent data but I suspect not much has changed. Consumers simply won't pay the $5,000 - $6,000 premium for a hybrid just "because," or at least not enough of them will do so to make the product even a break-even proposition. What was Ford thinking? Why would this be?

No matter, the savings on gasoline make up the premium cost. Nope. Not for a long while. The Toyota Prius is among the fastest at returning savings to the user. It takes 5 years and then how much can one expect? $80.00.

Well, it's worth it. Buying a hybrid will reduce your impact on the environment and if it takes 5 years to break even, well, that's just fine isn't it?

Sure, it would be, if that were true. It isn't.

In fact, the major hybrids are really quite unfriendly when you use real metrics to evaluate them. In this case, energy cost per mile over the lifetime of the vehicle.

CNW Market Research has done a comprehensive study (updated with 2006 model recently) on the "dust-to-dust" energy costs for everything from extracting and refining raw materials to manufacture, assembly, testing, delivery, driving during the life of the car and even disposal. This is, of course, the metric that should have been used to justify hybrids in the first place (since savings on fuel costs certainly didn't make their manufacture rational).

The study is intensely detailed (a great deal of time is spent modeling how long a vehicle remains with its first owner and how many times it changes hands before being disposed of, for instance, as each incremental transfer is additional energy expenditure). Read the 400 page report, absorb the "energy cost per mile" figures and some interesting things emerge:

* Actual consumption of gasoline is generally less than one third of the total energy consumption in the lifetime of a vehicle
* The 2006 model hybrid with the lowest energy impact during its life cycle is the Toyota Prius that consumes $2.965 per mile during its life
* The 2006 model hybrid with the highest energy impact during its life cycle is the Ford Escape that consumes $3.540 per mile during its life
* For many hybrid vehicles 25% to 30% of the life cycle energy expenditure is consumed in raw material production and manufacture- this is much higher than in non-hybrid vehicles. For foreign built cars this means that emissions in the country of use (the United States, say) are not being eliminated, but rather transferred to the country of manufacture. Next time a hybrid driver looks smug feel free to remind them that they are likely dumping their emissions into the second or third world. What kind of pig subjugates the peoples of Mexico and endangers their health to look "green" for their suburban neighbors and smirks about it?
* Federal (and state) subsidies mean that this energy use and emissions transfer is part of United States monetary policy (and California is exploiting Mexico).

Remembering that the hybrids consume $2.965 - $3.540 of energy per mile during their life cycle it is interesting to consider these figures for other popular vehicles:

Ford Escape: $3.540
Porsche Boxter: $3.388
Toyota Land Cruiser: $3.354
Maserati An: $3.219
BMW 5 Series: $3.197
Cadillac Escalade: $3.197
Corvette: $3.196
Toyota Prius: $2.965
Lincoln Navigator: $2.943
Porsche 911 Carrera 4: $2.806
Lincoln Town Car: $2.661
Range Rover Sport: $2.602
Porsche Cayenne: $2.539
BMW X3: $2.513
Hummer H3: $2.069

Interestingly, most large SUVs have a fairly significantly lower lifetime energy impact than do any of the hybrids.

What a wonderful "Green" investment strategy. Hybrid cars.

Hybrids are such a horrible mess because they mix all the elements required to destroy the market forces. Subsidies, state and federal. Green investing. Substantial research and development to avoid spending money on gasoline, which the market has actually left quite cheap, at the expense of a more expensive product. (Hint: use cheap resources until they are not cheap anymore).

Gas has to hit $6.00 per gallon before today's hybrids show any cost savings to their owners inside of three years. Even the most basic sensitivity analysis would expose this. We can only reason that the likes of Ford either expected $6.00 per gallon in the near future, or simply disregarded the economic analysis in favor of a political one. Is it any surprise that the resulting product is more expensive in every way worth measuring than its conventional counterparts? Shouldn't be if you were paying attention.'
NajdorfDefense is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive
 
 
Poker Players - Streaming Live Online