also in context of everything else you shared i find this extremely hard to believe

are you sure you aren't in denial about your own social incompetence or "low value" (i hate that term but whatever) behavior?

bruiser, you suck REALLY hard, realising this should help you with your contempt problems, given that you are almost certainly worse in all measurable ways than the girls you are interested in.

hope i was helpful

wait sayid = bruiser or are we just making fun of him for being like bruiser?

Unrelated to the current topic but just curious why is there an ad for an Asian gay online dating site popping up on 2P2? Is that a joke or is it really a real ad / site?

well i mean, thremp does post here

sayid_the_saviour,

why am i not going to these parties? hook me up.

Yeah. I was trying to point that out. There is a difference between... "I'm better cause I'm great" and "I'm better cause they suck"

True. I have sadly discovered *******.

Karak, sick burn.

tmcdmck, lol.

haha nope its really bruiser

The problem with these posts is that it's hard to want to help. People want to help those who give the impression of appreciating their advise, whether they accept it or not. Your posts don't give that impression (e.g, guy X sucks, most people suck and by implication so do most of you who're going to reply).

Or look at it as people want to help their friends. We're (relatively) friendly by default in this thread. People who say "I feel contempt for most human beings" are not people most of us want to make friends with.

I'd say that fixing that problem is going to be most of your solution to what you're actually asking advice for. You can see that it's probably contradictory to feel contempt for people yet you want to meet people. I agree with other responses saying it's a good idea to talk to a professional about this, I don't think we're likely to be as equipped for it.

maybe this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning...3Kruger_effect

if you hold contempt for people you will never appreciate and understand what makes high socially valued person high value. sit and watch the social dynamics at play without any preconceived egotistical notions. watch it completely objectively.

The interesting part is the contempt. I think most people don't matter but I don't feel anything negative toward them unless that are interfering with my day and even then the negative feeling lasts as long as the interference does. To actually have universal contempt always means that the individual has been rejected by the group and usually subjected to years of being picked on. The way to fix the situation is to first come to terms with why people don't like you, fix that, move to a new location or if your city is large enough just change social scenes and start over.

Dick BruiseFace, (if anyone can tell me which Adam Sandler CD this references I will appreciate it)

This is selfishness. Whether it is bad or not, I am not sure. I think like this pretty much all the time nowadays, it is not anti-social imo really. If I am interpreting correctly, I can relate to your predicament. Most of the time, I do not want to meet anyone new, or make any effort socially, I am happy where I am at, and have other areas of life that are non-social that I want to put into the forefront of things (career, health, poker, etc) and asserting any effort no matter how small does not fit with my plan so I avoid doing it, I will superficially be very social, but thats all it is, superficial. A cursory gesture (only if absolutely necessary) to people that I do not want to have any future with, now Im not talking my core group of friends, I will always go out of my way for them; but random chicks at a book store, or the park, who I would have hit on/talked to before, half the time I do not even notice any more, because I dont want the distraction, I liken it to a fighter who abstains from sex before a fight.

Are you manic? This also my have something to do with it, I have been doing some reading on the subject and am fairly convinced that social interaction is what keeps me on an even keel, if you are manic you know what I am talking about; it is somewhat of a release, unfortunately being the life of the party/entertaining others is a double edge sword, it makes me probably more sane day to day, but I am way less efficient/smart/productive. I was in a cycle mon-thurs, where my energy levels would rise sharply, after Monday night, and keep rising, so when Thursday hit I was bouncing off the walls and doing all kinds of great work 20 hours a day, and the little that I did sleep my eyes would sound like thunder in my head as they bounced behind my lids (this is how I figured out I was manic), the only thing that would bring me back down from this somewhat insane amount of energy/focus/craziness, would be to go out Friday nights and go crazy, drinking ****ing fighting etc (no drugs since September) until Sunday morning. Than it was all out of my system, and I felt normal for a couple days. I have been in this pattern for a couple months, and am determined to break it, and find some thing else (ie no more drinking/whoring/barhopping) when the energy levels ramp up starting in May; as I have social commitments for 2 weeks so I can not begin until then. What happens though, when you are in that state of manic energy according to the ****ty websites I have read, is feelings of grandiosity, excessive energy, etc, and that's where the "i dont have time for these plebs, because none of them have been able to keep up with me yet, so what teh **** is going to change now" stuck-up-ness might be coming in. I honestly dont know what the long term cure is, I am hoping for me it is moving to a city that makes me work harder, is more on pace with how I feel, but who knows.....

I just finished watching the 2nd episode of Treme, and something I thought was hilarious/pertinent to bruisers post;

the end of the episode, Steve Zahn's character was walking to a breakfast joint he apparently likes, and runs randomly into 3 annoying tourists that run up to him excited to see him etc (he previously in the episode recommended they party in the neighborhood they are currently in); he asks if they have checked in with their party at the hotel as the cops have been called etc, because everyone thinks they are missing (as they have been parting for a day or so w/o coming back to the church group staying at the hotel), they reply, "nah, we have to get breakfast first we are so hungover" and he gives them directions to the restaurant he was on his way to...

than before the camera cuts he mutters as they walk away "now where the **** am I going to eat"


which I think illustrates things awesomely

Just want to run something by you guys real quick.

Passing on sex with a 7/10 girl who's really drunk when you're not very drunk at all, noob-play or standard?

kind of standard. depends on whether you think she still knows what she is doing, whether or not you think she would want to when sober, and if the drunkeness puts you off. also you dont want to get busted for rape given how broad the legal definition is.

also depends on where 7s normally fit in your range.

One night stands are usually a bad idea, (unless you haven't had sex in a really long time) the sex is usually pretty bad and also I'm a pretty big nit on hygiene with girls I don't know, so I would pass. If you find her attractive show interest and try to get her to be a FWB.

Very true.

lol wut

I just think its a ridiculous projection that one night stands are bad, and the hygiene stuff comes off very Bateman-esque.

Well, I think we can safely sum this up as: If you think one night stands are a bad idea, don't do it. If you think one night stands are a good idea, do do it.

I didn't say that one night stands (ONS) were bad I just said that I don't prefer them, have all the ONS you want I don't care. But you can't deny that there's a legitimate risk that the hygiene on a really drunk girl is sub par. No I never do oral or w/e first time with a girl but still.

I read my post again, can be interpreted as if I hated on ONS. I don't. lul wut.

Alright, so i had/have been dating this girl for almost 3 months. It was a very fast relationship both physically and emotionally. Things progressed much faster than normal and she came with me to vegas for a week less than 3 weeks after our first date but we had talked and met before then.

When we get back, she has the "exclusive" talk with me a few days later and i do like her so i say ok though i don't know if that's a mistake because it is very soon. In the meantime i had been talking to other girls, but had not dated or hooked up as in my mind that's cheating. She finds out and gets mad/hurt, standard girl stuff, and says she doesn't trust me and i guess we break up. I don't think that's fair but i talk and go out with a girl in the meantime. 2 weeks later we talk and i get back together with the original girl and things are ok, and then the girl i went out with sends her a message (i guess she saw a pic with both of us and found her?) and tells her all kinds of things about me how i was dating other girls and not to trust me.

So i'm left here, with a girl i like who is freaking out about all this and a crazy girl who is either jealous or mad or something. What's my play? It has been a week since this went down and we have had rough patches. It has not been 2-3 months of perfect relationship but i do like her and i think there is serious long term potential. I may have drunk texted her this weekend with no reply and i called yesterday to explain that but she didn't answer. She has lots of emotional baggage from previous relationships and i am sure that is what is causing her major trust issues with me.

I was going to just move on but i have been thinking about her all weekend and i have given space i think there is a limit to how much time i can wait before making a move. I was thinking flowers, suggestions for what to write?

First. This type of "I didn't say that" type silliness annoys me to no end. Its just trollish and dumb.

Second, the argument about hygiene is completely absurd. Sometimes I don't shower when I go out, there isn't a correlative between how drunk I get and whether I showered. It may actually be somewhat inversely correlated. But its a extremely peculiar and bizarre reason to bring up as anything more than some sort of weird personal quirk.