There isnt, thats the problem only if you know the girl and how she acts and what she responds too, its better suited for like work/school environments where you can study someone basically. With a random girl you are taking a shot in the dark and hoping for the best for straight away you can tell that convo kinda strat just wont really be effective, bare in mind that there are other guys likely attempting this because they dont know better the success rate just wont be as great to boot.(I reckon this is Jwhitts problem he can win some but not big)

But im sure you can look back on girls you've had/girls in school etc now and realized how easy you could have had them knowing what you know now.

Sadly i dont have it all figured out though or i would be in some heavy vag rather than posting but it definitely has some merit

wow. Simple but true.

I don't really even bother with getting numbers these days because it's such a non-personal / distant kinda thing only useful once you're already 'in' with said girl. And then at that point, it's uses are limited. If you want to get a way to contact her, facebook is the play imo.

hey guys, facebookimg girls instead of getting a number? really? i thought only 16 yo virgins do that. i have never asked for a girls fb and i never will. i have friends who do that but i dont see how it can be succesful. maybe im a noob

if a rndm chick asks me for my fb i simply say no... and exchange numbers instead.

its not what you obtain whether its whatsapp/facebook/bbm/texting its how you use it guys.

i don't think i've used a phone (as in voice calls) to communicate with a girl since like 2002. i have friends who do that but i dont see how it can be succcesful.

doesn't everyone just text? exchanging facebook with someone you barely know is awkward unless you're networking for the purpose of promoting something. if it's just for personal communication, it's coming on a bit too strong. reeks of desperation.

that's the standard for me. i only ever tell people to facebook me if we have a bunch of mutual friends and its easier than exchanging numbers.

Facebooking is weak, but I get the feeling that in a few more years it'll seem normal. The kinds that grew up with FB as their main social outlet, they're going to be a bunch of mouthbreathing idiots when it comes to normal social interaction.

it'll be normal in a few years because it will completely dominate the phone number in every way. once everyone has smart phones there will be no benefit to a phone number over a facebook contact.

(replace facebook with whatever dominant social networking site/app if necessary. apple might find a way to win this one too)

no voicecalls ? maybe this might be different from country to country but i dont like texting its pretty g a y.

So I'm currently living with my gf, we have been dating for about a year but she never ****ing cleans and she never does the dishes and I have to nag her all the ****ing time. It is getting to the point where I am thinking about breaking up with her about it because it hasn't gotten better, it has gotten worse.

What am I supposed to do here? We are living together and if we break up she has like no place to go (she is in another state for school and we started dating while she was in school) but I just can't live like this. We are looking into moving to a new apartment but I don't think I can do it if this doesn't improve. She has anxiety issues and she claims that the mess is overwhelming but its her mess, like all of it is her mess.

I am basically at the end of my rope here.

^This sounds highly entertaining...please let us know how it turns out.

Mess can be a problem with anxiety. You've got a few options:

- Be a better boyfriend and help her work through some of her issues
- Teach her to clean up as she uses stuff, rather than leaving it for later
- Every time you want to use the kitchen, put the dirty plates on her bed until she learns to wash them

I'd probably break up with her (in fact, I wouldn't date a pig in the first place), but if you don't want to do that then the last option seems the most likely to have satisfying results if she's so messed up. People with anxiety disorders need to be forced into a choice between lesser anxiety (washing up) or greater anxiety (constantly walking in to dirty plates on her bed).

You can choose to help and support her with her anxiety issues that are most likely the cause of her messiness, or you can just put down an ultimatum for her to get help and let her gracefully fail to reform.

It sounds like I'm propping one option up over the other, but I'm not trying to. If you decide you can't deal with the mess, don't have the patience to support her through anxiety issues, or can't be sure that she will be able to work through those issues, then you're more than correct to leave.

Just make sure before you make the decision that you understand her messiness is tied up with other issues.

ahahahaahhahaahahhaha what

Anxious people need more pressure to become less anxious?

Need to threaten her with violent behaviour


or

Domesticate her like a boyfriend/man/alpha male would just grab sit her down and say this is whats happening..etc and this is whats going down...etc

simple stuff this is what my mother does with me be very strict

-Dishes?? wash em up right after using them, make her do the same dont slack off she wont slack off she will test you, and if you waiver fail you will be a ****** forever

Tell her tommorow you and her are cleaning the house/w.e together completely and the anxiety problem will be gone! If she refuses then she needs a firmer boyfriend

GL come back with victory post plz

BEP,

Post more please.

I agree, but there's a difference between setting boundaries and expectations vs. dragging someone who's kicking & screaming to do something they don't want to do. One allows personal choice and accountability, and the other does not and quickly becomes tiring. It's important to distinguish between the two, since both are technically "being strict".

Yes. For example, anxiety disorders decrease during times of war. Anxious people need structure and purpose. This is especially true for lazy people.

And that's even assuming the true reason she fails to wash up is anxiety...lol.

Anxious people need structure and purpose, not pressure or harassment to enforce structure and purpose.

True since he knows her better he should be the judge and select the appropriate line of action to take, maybe she may need a shove or a light push since hes been with her all this he should tell us which will work best.
My only worry is maybe this is set to go downhill already.


I think maybe this thread should work like customer support lol,

Problem>details>suggestions>decision>result>PROFIT ?!?!

I reckon it will solve everything straight up kinda like how dcfir goes about his cases. Maybe it might even sort out Jwhitt?!

Hire a full time maid or dump her.

fyp

I told my gf last night that I didn't want to break up with her but if things didn't change I had to do it because she wasn't pulling her weight around the house. I then told her today over my lunch that I needed her to help clean our home and to do the dishes before I got off of work. I'm planning on breaking up with her if I get home and she hasn't done anything.

Too harsh? I'm at the end of my rope here people. This is killing me, I get along so great with this girl but she just refuses to ****ing pick up after herself.

Why is that harsh? You've set the expectation, she knows she's at the edge of your boundaries, and now she knows that any failure to meet that expectation will have real consequences. That sounds like the healthiest thing in the world.

Yeah I know I'm not crazy I just need some reassurance I'm not being too harsh