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04-07-2008 , 03:02 AM
Still no SNG love, and Zeejustin multiaccounting was 2006 as I didn't get on 2p2 until then and I remember it.
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04-07-2008 , 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by toss
Woah. That's insane how someone can run sick hot for hundreds of thousands of hands.
Is this a level? That was what the whole argument in the high stakes limit forum for ages.

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04-07-2008 , 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mmbt0ne
Negreanu vs eugeneel's crew of 100% vpip players was good entertainment for about a week.
This was one of my favourite HU grunge matches because eugeneel's crew was himself, woodrow and another player with good 100/200+ success who pooled bankrolls together to play him.

So we had 3 proven big online winners putting nearly everything on the line to play a big name live winner online. It was the first match of that nature and for those stakes and the railbirds were going wild with it.

Then Negreanu did well on them and Eugene took a long break from poker.
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04-07-2008 , 10:21 AM
2004
-Explosion in 2004 WSOP turnout due to online qualifiers
-Stars introduces 100/200 limit tables
-Party opens 30/60 limit
-Party dominates industry
-Rakeback introduced
-Rakeback wars
-zerorake.com opens, fails
-NL still trailing limit in popularity, 10 handed limit holdem still the most popular game online
-Ed Miller writes Small Stakes Holdem
-David Ross documents online poker for a living at two plus two
-Notable online players – Neverwin, magicpitch (benyamine), Thomas keller…
-Notable 2p2ers – davidross, bicyclekick, el Diablo, gonores, schneids, captzeebo, astroglide, james282, Nate Tha Great, Fossilman, thebruiser, strassa, 1800gambler, GoG, samoleus
-Daniel Negreanu plays Dreamclown at pokerroom 500/1000 limit heads up
-New poker terms? E.g. hijack, donkbet, etc…
-Full Tilt launched


this was at ongame and im pretty sure it was 06, maybe even 07?
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04-07-2008 , 11:05 AM
Crazy to think about how much bigger this game has gotten. I remember watching those 30/60 days at party and the 1/2 NL games thinking they were huge back at the start of 2004. Just curious who here played poker online for $ before the WPT started airing it ? How were the games back then around 2002 ? Even smaller limit ? Tough as nails games ?
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04-07-2008 , 03:47 PM
And welcome back - it was great to hear from you.

You signed up for your original Delta account on May 10, 1999.


i signed up for my first account at delta poker to loan some money to a fellow magic: the gathering player i knew on irc. started playing at paradise with the others not long afterward.

i googled a bit but i couldn't find the post where i responded to the book-inspired internet gambling debate on whether or not people could make a living playing small stakes online poker by posting the stats from my "extreme" (for the time) 6-8 table experiment. i got the idea of connecting to both party and intertops simultaneously to go past 4 tables from a friend and infrequent 2p2'er that i had helped with a multi-system synergy setup. he started by playing everquest while he played poker and then discovered that it was possible to play at both sites on different computers. i logged into both on one. i wanted an extended low-risk trial to see if i could handle it, and the subject got much more attention than i had anticipated.

i think i might take more credit for stuff like the 3bb/100 limit ideal and 2001FP craze than multitabling itself, although it's hard to measure any of it. party & skins lended themselves perfectly to multiple 1600x1200 monitors. i got and posted about twin 2001FPs back when you had to order a computer to get one. most people were reticent to publish their stats due to modesty, shame, privacy, edge, etc. of what was posted by others, i don't think anything came close to 100k hands because people were playing less tables. i don't recall publishing current screenshots or disclosing current ids for reasons i just cited, i thought it tacky and that it had much more downside than upside. i posted the 3/6 stuff since the test was over and i was actually a higher-limit player even prior to doing it so i didn't consider it a brag. i thought it might help inspire people to keep chugging.
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04-07-2008 , 08:30 PM
Here are some from the 2p2 archives. I joined here in January 1998 and we started talking about online casinos soon thereafter.

http://twoplustwo.com/digests/mar98_msg.html#3299
Can you play Hold 'Em on the Web?

http://www.twoplustwo.com/digests/oct98_msg.html
Are there online cardrooms for real money? (search for text "online poker")

http://www.twoplustwo.com/digests/mar99_main.html
First mention I can find of Planet Poker (search for text "online poker casinos")

http://twoplustwo.com/digests/inet_arch_feb00_main.html
2p2 opened the "Internet Gambling" forum in Feb 2000.

IRC was the place to play for fake money back then. They had maximum bankroll requirements for certain tables (you had to have 50,000 to play 25-50, etc..) and it got quite competitive. People actually valued being able to play the "bigger games" and would fold hands. Many of the folks, like me, who played on IRC switched to real money games as soon as they were available.

KJS

Last edited by KJS; 04-07-2008 at 08:35 PM. Reason: no conspiracy talk in last link, got confused. Added first digest of Internet Gambling forum
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04-07-2008 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by KJS
Here are some from the 2p2 archives. I joined here in January 1998 and we started talking about online casinos soon thereafter.

http://twoplustwo.com/digests/mar98_msg.html#3299
Can you play Hold 'Em on the Web?

http://www.twoplustwo.com/digests/oct98_msg.html
Are there online cardrooms for real money? (search for text "online poker")

http://www.twoplustwo.com/digests/mar99_main.html
First mention I can find of Planet Poker (search for text "online poker casinos")

http://twoplustwo.com/digests/inet_arch_feb00_main.html
2p2 opened the "Internet Gambling" forum in Feb 2000.

IRC was the place to play for fake money back then. They had maximum bankroll requirements for certain tables (you had to have 50,000 to play 25-50, etc..) and it got quite competitive. People actually valued being able to play the "bigger games" and would fold hands. Many of the folks, like me, who played on IRC switched to real money games as soon as they were available.

KJS
awesome, thanks KJS
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04-07-2008 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KJS
Here are some from the 2p2 archives. I joined here in January 1998 and we started talking about online casinos soon thereafter.

http://twoplustwo.com/digests/mar98_msg.html#3299
Can you play Hold 'Em on the Web?

http://www.twoplustwo.com/digests/oct98_msg.html
Are there online cardrooms for real money? (search for text "online poker")

http://www.twoplustwo.com/digests/mar99_main.html
First mention I can find of Planet Poker (search for text "online poker casinos")

http://twoplustwo.com/digests/inet_arch_feb00_main.html
2p2 opened the "Internet Gambling" forum in Feb 2000.

IRC was the place to play for fake money back then. They had maximum bankroll requirements for certain tables (you had to have 50,000 to play 25-50, etc..) and it got quite competitive. People actually valued being able to play the "bigger games" and would fold hands. Many of the folks, like me, who played on IRC switched to real money games as soon as they were available.

KJS
is that wat 2+2 looked like back in the day or is that just the archives?
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04-08-2008 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by demon102
is that wat 2+2 looked like back in the day or is that just the archives?
Ummm... "back in the day?" It looked pretty much like that up until just about 7 or 8 months ago.

Here's the main page as it appeared on Aug 14, 2007, thanks to the Wayback Machine.

Last edited by MortalWombat; 04-08-2008 at 03:08 PM.
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04-08-2008 , 03:13 PM
astroglide
I saw your screenshots of pt stats at 3/6 quite a while ago on flopturnriver, and I was like "woww thats a sick hourly rate, I wanna do that for part time job!" it was very inspiring

this thread brings back many memories, it's already been 4 years since I started playing and now, I'm playing at stakes that I'd imagined my self to be playing. I think poker has given me more than just the (moderate) financial freedom, but also some very valuable life skills/ and maybe some few bad habits (lol sleep cycle/countless hours wasted surfing 2p2).

thank you 2P2!
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04-08-2008 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MortalWombat
Ummm... "back in the day?" It looked pretty much like that up until just about 7 or 8 months ago.

Here's the main page as it appeared on Aug 14, 2007, thanks to the Wayback Machine.
wat?
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04-08-2008 , 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MortalWombat
Ummm... "back in the day?" It looked pretty much like that up until just about 7 or 8 months ago.

Here's the main page as it appeared on Aug 14, 2007, thanks to the Wayback Machine.
I guess thats just the way the archives looked, like our archives now look like the way the forum used to.
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04-08-2008 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by demon102
is that wat 2+2 looked like back in the day or is that just the archives?
yes, 2+2 used to look like that before they switched to ubb.
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04-08-2008 , 07:25 PM
Delta poker was launched in 1998. The smallest game was the 3-6. It was expensive learning poker in those days (thats about 30-60 in today's money). The big game was the 15-30. The site was run by two Australian guys (wassup Joey and Ciro!) who used to sit in the dealer's seat and shoot the **** with the regulars.

Planet poker launched shortly afterwards. Both sites played pretty similarly to one another, although Planet had more players.

Paradise poker opened in 1999. Everyone complained about how fast it was and that they couldn't keep up with the hands. It had a much bigger player base than the other sites, and multitabling became fashionable. I think it opened with games as low as 1-2 which might have attracted more players. It definitely had 2-4.
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04-08-2008 , 08:05 PM
LOVE pokerjo
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04-08-2008 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by geormiet
-WPEX introduces rakefree poker, limited success
It's more realistic to call it a complete failure, really. WPEX's inability to gain traction is a case study.
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04-08-2008 , 11:04 PM
When was the continuation bet every hand strategy introduced? I started reading 2p2 around 2004, but I don't remember learning about that until early 2005. No idea if this is timeline material, but that's when players like me who didn't know what they were doing started winning pretty easily.
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04-08-2008 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerjo22
Delta poker was launched in 1998. The smallest game was the 3-6. It was expensive learning poker in those days (thats about 30-60 in today's money). The big game was the 15-30. The site was run by two Australian guys (wassup Joey and Ciro!) who used to sit in the dealer's seat and shoot the **** with the regulars.

Planet poker launched shortly afterwards. Both sites played pretty similarly to one another, although Planet had more players.

Paradise poker opened in 1999. Everyone complained about how fast it was and that they couldn't keep up with the hands. It had a much bigger player base than the other sites, and multitabling became fashionable. I think it opened with games as low as 1-2 which might have attracted more players. It definitely had 2-4.
huh never heard of delta, always heard that planet was first, just tried to google them and it came up with the .com site but when u click on it its a .org site thats parked by godaddy.com whatever that means.

http://www.deltapoker.org/
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04-09-2008 , 06:53 AM
10-Man 15k buy-in SnGs?

Please elaborate
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04-09-2008 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Go_Blue88
When was the continuation bet every hand strategy introduced? I started reading 2p2 around 2004, but I don't remember learning about that until early 2005. No idea if this is timeline material, but that's when players like me who didn't know what they were doing started winning pretty easily.
Pretty sure this was in super system.
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04-09-2008 , 12:00 PM
Good thread!

I think the goal should be to form this all into a Wikipedia-article because I can't be the only one who finds this stuff really fascinating. Unfortunately I can't contribute by much, but the first nose-bleed games on Prima need to get mentioned along with a list of the biggest online pots recorded.
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04-09-2008 , 04:47 PM
This would make a good book.
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04-09-2008 , 05:59 PM
i'd like to be the first to buy it.
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