It still screams out of touch or unrealistic to me though. The most vocal people of those minorities aren't looking for Boston Lager. I personally enjoy that beer, and many of my friends do as well, but it's pretty hard to take a lager, mass produce and sell it at every Red Lobster, TGI Fridays and Applebees in a frozen mug and expect some specialty beer bar to carry it. They don't carry many standard lagers at those types of places anyways.

He has hipster beers. He has beers for the niches (as you correctly corrected me on), but wanting his most popular and mass produced beer to also be demanded by the niche niches, that seems unrealistic to me, if that's what he meant.

People call Coors **** (it is crap too), but are happy to buy their sours. I don't think people call Boston Lager crap, even if the people buying Utopius or their other special beers aren't buying Boston Lager. I'm not sure Koch should want anything more.

RE aging beers, myself and many others in our homebrew club enjoyed hearing this author speak and we bought his book. I'd recommend taking a look at this if you're interested in aging beer - http://www.amazon.com/Vintage-Beer-T...dp/161212156X/

Goofy, just buy a big, working fridge and then buy a temperature controller for it. The latter can be had for around $50 (you can make one far cheaper if you want to spend the time and can follow basic instructions). Stuff labeled "wine fridge" or (less often) "beer fridge" is going to cost a lot more money automatically and won't give you the same space for price.

My buddy picked me up some rare barrel stuff a few weeks ago and got to the airport too late to check his bag and had to do the same. brutal.

Airport workers in SF have to be the best beer snobs ever

KBZ, AA:

Double Down's dad would be very disappointed in you: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2921

I only did the loltourist stuff when I went there in HS but I'll ask a friend of mine who went to brewing school there.

Sour and BA fans,

Planning on going to an event called Super Barrel Weekend at a local tap room and bottle shop. Here is what they will have:

2 Towns Ciderhouse - Bourbon BBL-Aged “Nice & Naughty” Spiced Cider
Agrarian Ales - “Curcubita Maxima” Rye Whiskey BBL-Aged Wee Heavy w/Squash
Block 15 - Marionberry “Wildfire” Oak BBL-Aged Dortmund Style Adambier w/Marionberries
Block 15 - “Strawberry Fields” Pinot BBL-Aged Wild Farmhouse Ale w/Strawberries
Breakside - “Apollo & Dionysus” Gin BBL-Aged Saison w/Chrysanthemum, Jasmine & Szechwan Peppercorn
Breakside - Bourbon BBL-Aged “Aztec” American Strong Ale w/Chocolate & Chilies
de Garde - An Imperial Fruit Bu Weisse & a Dry-Hopped Petit Desay - stay tuned…
Deschutes - “Abyss” BBL-Aged Imperial Stout
Dogfish Head - “Burton Baton” Oak BBL-Aged Imperial IPA
Dogfish Head - “Palo Santo Marron” Malt Beverage Aged on Palo Santo Wood
Epic - “Big Bad Baptist” - Whiskey BBL-Aged Imperial Stout w/Cocoa Nibs & Coffee
Epic - “Smoked & Oaked” Whiskey BBL-Aged Belgian Strong Dark
Finnriver Farm & Cidery - “Fire Barrel” Bourbon BBL-Aged Cider
2013 Firestone Walker - “17th Anniversary” BBL-Aged Blend
Oakshire - “Bourbon Storm” Bourbon BBL-Aged IIPA
2011 Russian River - “Supplication” Pinot BBL-Aged Brown Ale w/Sour Cherries
Russian River - “Temptation” Chardonnay BBL-Aged Blonde Ale
Sierra Nevada - Bourbon BBL-Aged “Narwahl” Imperial Stout - pouring from BOTTLES - very limited
The Commons - “Little Brother” Bourbon BBL-Aged Belgian Strong Dark
Trinity “Red Swingline” IPA Primitif Wild & Sour Session IPA
Trinity “Sour Threads” Blended BBL-Aged Dark Sour - Single Release - Very Rare

Any suggestions?

cheers. as i say, i think my time will be very limited, otherwise i'd just look to visit weihenstaphen or however it's spelled

anyone have any experience with any of the following:



limited selection of imports of a beer fest that i might go to tomorrow

De Garde, russian river, block 15 for sure....Have heard good things about the commons. All the stouts on are very good.

I'm drinking Ithaca Beer Co. Flower Power IPA for the first time. This is right up my alley. Great all purpose juicy IPA. This will be in fridge often.

Barrel-aged Narwhal is pretty great imo and I've heard that Firestone 17 is excellent.

Try Oakshire for sure.

All you cantillon drinkers itt....I've never had mamouche. How do you guys like it compared to other mid tier stuff? (i.e. vig, st lam, LPs, fou)

Wait, people drink Cantillon?

I thought you were just supposed to buy it, then just stare it in your basement while you imagine that someday you'll drink it. I'm probably doing it wrong.

Mamouche is my least favorite by a large amount. It is too peppery and floral and I especially don't like the bitterness or herbal spice quality to it.

Yea the whole elderflower thing just doesn't appeal to me.....I guess I should try one eventually though.

Haha, nice.

Side note for Chicago people: why has nobody ever mentioned Finch's? They apparently make good beers. That double IPA is juicy.

Personally, I'm not a fan of Finch's. Their target market generally has been aimed at Bros that are getting away from bud light and the like. Their advantage is that they were able to get a massive facility and allow for contract brewing. They are really low on the totem pole of what I would drink at a bar and for Chicago/IL beer in general.

To me is just comes down to your flavor preference. My favorite of all I think is the Lou Pepe Framboise but that's just a raspberry thing for me. Mamouche I thought was cool but do prefer other fruited flavors over it.

Hmm, looks like this order didn't leave Belgium until today. Gonna be a real sweat to see if it makes it throw the cold weather unharmed.

I have a few orders from etre pending....i just tell them to wait until march to ship to be safe. good luck! hopefully no cantillon popsicles.

Grapefruit Sculpin finally hit Atlanta today. I was shocked when I realized that the bottles were only 11 days old. I threw one on ice for twenty minutes. The grapefruit was very strong on the nose and was equally strong on the palate. Slightly unbalanced and too citrusy right off the ice, but as it warmed up over 10-15 minutes the grapefruit, hops and malt were all in harmony. This was really great.

Sixpoint just started distributing to my area. Resin was my first purchase and it is wonderful. Looking forward to trying out the rest of their lineup.

Funny you should post this. I can get six point beers everywhere. Resin is pretty good. Yesterday I was so excited to get my hands on Hi-Res IIPA. Sadly, I found it to be way too malty and syrupy. I have 3 left, maybe my opinion will change...I was really looking forward to this beer.

I've heard that same complaint about hi-res, that is too sweet/syrupy. We have a poor selection in our city so it was a big deal to get Sixpoint. We do have Prairie, but that is because they are HQ'd an hour away.