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10-18-2012 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokie
That is true what you say about $100NL, that is why I sort of said $200NL+ as well although really I think I mean $400NL+.

It is probably looser at $2NL and $5NL, starts to tighten up a bit at $25NL and $50NL, before getting sickly tight where you can literally only stack AA pre-flop for 100bb's at $100NL, and since by trying to stack, you are revealing that you have AA, you therefore can't really stack with it either so are forced to increase your EV by just calling. Then it starts to loosen out a bit after $100NL.
it depends pokie,
i stack easily with jacks in a BvsB situation,
and when you are very active pre-flop, re-stealing a lot, it's easier to get shoved by AK, QQ, JJ, TT, even AQ sometimes(not counting the bluffshoves we see)

but calling is aces is awesome, i just 5-bet them or 4-bet when villain is highly capable of shoving pre
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10-18-2012 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by lolusernames
There are rare times that folding KK is justified

i.e. FR zoom you open UTG and nit reg 12/10 w/ a 3% 3bet's you

it's never QQ-
but it's often AKs
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10-18-2012 , 08:01 PM
3% 3bet im 100% getting it in/ 1% 3bet im folding - am i doing it wrong?
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10-19-2012 , 12:48 AM
in 6max folding kk is prob close to always wrong

in fr lots of spots come up where folding is applicable or calling is the best course of action
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10-19-2012 , 04:03 AM
Hand 1 should end up allin preflop,

Hand 2 I don't mind but would always play iypt this way
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10-19-2012 , 04:05 AM
Hand 2 wouldn't always play this way
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04-05-2018 , 11:17 PM
Man,
You have KK and AA once in 221 hands. Probability that an opponent has AA when you have KK is about 4% when playing full ring (1 in 20 cases).

So one time from 20 KK you have you will probably loose, not mentioning other hands vs your KK (still AA vs KK wins "only" in 80% so you will win 1 of 4 in these matchups). So play you KK properly and it will still be ITM cards.

It doesn´t mean you shoudn´t fold it. If you know some opponents, which in zoom is hard, you may fold it. As well as if you slowplay it preflop a then there´s strong flush or straight draw or AAx on board. Just fold it man, you ll get another chance in 221 hands ;-) (about 200 hands per hour per table in zoom right...)

And also man, don´t even think about winning with ANY pair of cards everytime. Even 76s wins against KK or AA in 26% of cases so stop crying and play.
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04-06-2018 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by backman91
Man,
...............
And also man, don´t even think about winning with ANY pair of cards everytime. Even 76s wins against KK or AA in 26% of cases so stop crying and play.
Yeah, he's not going to be reading any of that advice.

Spoiler:
He hasn't logged in in over 3 years
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04-09-2018 , 11:24 PM
There has been multiple times ive lost stacks with KK vs. AA

Im not folding KK pre flop. If you got it you got it.

If there was a shove and re shove you could probably let QQ go but that would probably be exclusive to a cash game. Considering stack sizes etc.
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04-11-2018 , 10:50 AM
You should be going broke with KK vs AA.
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04-19-2018 , 12:18 AM
I think the only time you can consider folding KK pf is when a tight player cold 4-bets. But even with this, it would still be something to do very infrequently.

I made a post about this that I put into the 6-max forum by mistake, but it's actually FR

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/6...kk-pf-1708551/
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