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Old 05-01-2021, 05:18 PM   #1
alexbrasile
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Would you just limp this hand from EP?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 168.1 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB
UTG+1: 151.8 BB
Hero (MP): 100.9 BB
CO: 98.5 BB
BTN: 165.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 5

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB, fold, BTN raises to 8 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop: (18.5 BB, 2 players) 5 9 J
Hero checks, BTN bets 17 BB, Hero raises to 34 BB, BTN raises to 157.6 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 58.9 BB and is all-in

Turn: (204.3 BB, 2 players) T

River: (204.3 BB, 2 players) 2

Hero shows 5 5 (Three of a Kind, Fives)
(Pre 19%, Flop 86%, Turn 77%)
BTN shows 8 8 (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 81%, Flop 14%, Turn 23%)
Hero wins 195.1 BB


I guess if I had raised it instead of limping, it'd be hard to extract like this. What do you think about it?
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Old 05-02-2021, 05:46 PM   #2
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Re: Would you just limp this hand from EP?

Why would you limp and then call that big raise when you could’ve just raised yourself?

AP flop minraise is bad. But fortunately our play doesn’t matter very much when our opponents play this poorly


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Old 05-04-2021, 07:33 AM   #3
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Re: Would you just limp this hand from EP?

it is ok.

We can't raise for value preflop.

Hand plays bad postflop unless we hit.

Like to play this hand multiway so we are more likely to get paid off when we hit.

Also we should take into account that the limpers might limp raise if we raise and we like to see a flop with this hand so don't want to be raised of our hand.

Preflop is still marginal but ok if villain is bad enough to pay us off
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Old 05-08-2021, 01:27 AM   #4
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Re: Would you just limp this hand from EP?

pocket 5s are pretty good in a 7 person table. I would have definitely raised pre. Try to isolate the limper.
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Old 05-08-2021, 03:57 AM   #5
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Re: Would you just limp this hand from EP?

Yeah I think raising pre is ok but don't think overlimping is that bad for the reasons mentioned
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Old 05-10-2021, 05:53 PM   #6
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Re: Would you just limp this hand from EP?

I don't know how well you can count on extracting value like this. In my mind the only reason you got such great value was because Btn butchered his hand (pls correct me if I'm wrong). So this hand isn't really a good example for/against limping.
You called pre and he has third pair and goes all-in after a reraise on the flop?
What exactly is he trying to accomplish?
(That said I think a limp is fine - as would be a raise depending on table dynamics. I'd want multiple players in the pot when I hit)
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