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03-03-2019 , 05:46 AM
PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: 121 BB (VPIP: 9.57, PFR: 4.26, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 97)
Hero (BTN): 83 BB
SB: 60 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 13.75, 3Bet Preflop: 3.33, Hands: 162)
BB: 80 BB (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
UTG: 165 BB (VPIP: 21.62, PFR: 16.22, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 38)
UTG+1: 107.5 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 7.02, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 175)
MP: 42.5 BB (VPIP: 12.04, PFR: 2.78, 3Bet Preflop: 2.86, Hands: 111)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T A

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) A 3 T
BB checks, Hero bets 4.5 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 4.5 BB

Turn: (23.5 BB, 2 players) 7
BB checks, Hero bets 19 BB, BB raises to 68.5 BB and is all-in,

Hero ??

So I'm a bit confused about how to handle this

So, reraise on the flop.. he doesn't have AA since his range is capped preflop, he can have TT but that is one combination, he can have 33 wich is 3 combinations. He likely has many flushdraws and inside straightdraws in his range.

He then checks the turn, giving me the impression he tried to realize some fold equity with a draw. He then proceeds to reraise all in for 49.5 extra BB in a 61.5BB pot.

The 7 did not change anything since he wouldn't reraise with 77 on the flop. If he had 33 or TT he would likely keep building pot cause I've shown alot of strength calling his reraise on the flop. If I had AJ+ type hand I would go for a check to see a cheap showdown. If I had the flushdraw I would also check here. So he can't expect getting alot of bets into him at this point.

Not much of this line made sense to me so I ended up calling. Thoughts?

Last edited by thimon; 03-03-2019 at 06:00 AM.
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03-03-2019 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by thimon
PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players

BB: 80 BB (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

he doesn't have AA since his range is capped preflop
Mate, his range is pretty much anything. You've massively overthought about an opponent who isn't thinking at all. He can have A3, T3, AK. Cheerfully reraise on the flop and call off, if he has 33 or better shake his virtual hand and move on.

Against an opponent like this I'd probably open to 4x as well.

Why are you short-stacked?
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03-03-2019 , 02:10 PM
We have very unreliable info about him (10 hands) and assuming he's check-raising twice cause he's bad and just call him down probably isn't +EV in the long run vs all unknown opponents, or well this is basically my question with the thread. If I hadn't put this much thought into this hand I likely would have folded it and felt good about that.

I normally open 2x from BU and 2.5 from CO since this allows me to steal more frequently with better result.

I'm short-stacked because pokerstars don't allow auto rebuy and I'm playing 6 tables and I can't say about this specific hand but maybe I was involved in the hand prior to this one. I try my best to be topped off at all times.

Edit: I just wanna make it clear I'm not saying you're wrong, I just want some input on my thoughtprocess since im trying to improve

Last edited by thimon; 03-03-2019 at 02:38 PM.
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03-03-2019 , 03:08 PM
Also ofcourse you're correct he can have A3, T3, AK etc I wrote that a bit strangely, what I mean is things in his range that I'm worried about.
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03-03-2019 , 03:40 PM
The double check raise is a maneuver I am rarely able to pull off when it is for value. It makes my hand very transparent but it also traps the villain and makes him feel stupid. However, I consider myself a decent player (don't we all?) and can execute the double check-raise on a beginner player when it makes sense. The only legitimate reason to make this play is to make a beginner villain think we are a blufftard spewfish. The idea is to get medium strength made hands to come over the top of out monsters.

Now since you hold top two pair, I cannot say that this guy has a monster. Even sets on this board are not monsters given the flush draw.

For villain, this is a bad play with a set because it makes your fold pretty easy if you did have a draw. It makes your fold VERY easy if all you had was TPGK.

I think two pair is the only hand Hero has in his range that feels the sweat.

Is villain that good to narrow Hero's range to two-pair/sets, to put him in a bad spot?

I don't think so.

It smells fishy like a last minute decision to check-raise all in with a desperation gut shot and/or straight draw, or pair + draw hand.

Either way, I think it would be too nitty to fold your hand strength versus his range with the pot odd considerations.

Only in higher limits would folds a certain percentage of the time make sense (IMO of course). I think this is because bluffs don't happen as often for this microstake, but as players get better, they will be willing to try and bluff you off TPTK or even sets, right?

But I don't think this advanced play is occurring at this level, so a call almost 100% of the time for me!

But I can get spewtard happy at times, usually my RCE is closer to 2, but when I get tilty it can go below 1.5, but usually I have good river instincts. I consider this a river spot since it is effectively all-in.

edit: I think your flop call puts a lot of flushes in your range; then he follows up the turn with a check, which leads me to believe he's not that concerned about protecting against a flush draw, which puts more flushes into his range, and his following check-raise would make sense for a flush draw.

edit2: Then again, his hud stats show a very passive calling station? When these come alive we should be cautious, but I think my play is the same since 'pot odds' lol
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03-07-2019 , 02:42 PM
Reraise flop most of the time (get value from Ax/FD). As played don't fold the nuts on the turn.
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03-08-2019 , 08:32 PM
I call the river. I'm looking him because his play is bizarre and this is a blind steal situation so his range is ultra wide.
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