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Should I bluff shove the river this spot Should I bluff shove the river this spot

11-14-2018 , 08:09 PM
No Limit Hold'em $0,01/$0,02
PokerStars
8 players
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Stacks:
UTG - UTG ($2,00)
UTG+1 - UTG+1 ($2,00)
MP - MP ($2,00)
MP2 - MP2 ($1,47)
CO - CO ($2,39)
BTN - BTN ($1,94)
SB - SB ($3,11)
BB - Hero ($2,41)

Preflop: ($0,03, 8 players) Hero is BB with 5 K
UTG raises to $0,06, 1 fold, MP calls $0,06, 4 folds, Hero calls $0,04

Flop: 3 5 K ($0,19, 3 players)
Hero bets $0,10, UTG calls $0,10, MP raises to $0,30, Hero calls $0,20, 1 fold

Turn: A ($0,89, 2 players)
Hero bets $0,43, MP calls $0,43

River: 7 ($1,75, 2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Total Pot: $1,75
Hero shows 5 K (two pair, Kings and Fives)
MP shows A K (two pair, Aces and Kings)

MP wins $1,69


Hi everybody, in this spot I think I missed a good opportunity to bluff and win the pot. On the flop, I think villain's range is 55,33,AKs,KQs,AKo,KQo when he raises. Since he raises I doubt he has a draw and think he's trying to win the pot right now. So, when the A comes I try to represent that I have a flush and make him fold and he calls. When the river came I thought : ''well I have good SDV so lets check'', but now, looking at how the hand played out, I do think that I could have potentially shoved here to make him fold and I still have SDV what do you think ?

Last edited by Gibzerin0x; 11-14-2018 at 08:17 PM.
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11-15-2018 , 01:48 AM
Do you bet out on the turn if you hit the flush?

I’m not sure stacks are deep enough, plus we unblock all flushes. I’d like a heart here. And the range we assign mostly improves on the card, how often do players fold 2 pair or better, though that range could be a bit tight.

I think a small bet to target KQ, Ax hands is optimal and save the shoves for a highly polarised range of flushes and flush/tp blocking bluffs.


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11-15-2018 , 08:07 AM
How did you view UTG and MP?
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11-15-2018 , 04:04 PM
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I do think that I could have potentially shoved here to make him fold and I still have SDV what do you think ?
good idea...

except you can not successfully use the bluff shove at 2nl... ITLR

except as a fake bluff shove......and that is actually where you begin to crush 2nl ..imo
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11-15-2018 , 06:37 PM
I think you made the right play. You extracted value on the flop and turn when you were ahead. The rivers abit iffy as I get the feeling a couple of the opponents were chasing a draw


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11-15-2018 , 06:43 PM
Also, bluffing the river at this stake is gonna end up costing you your bankroll IMO, unless you are confident you are ahead. Reason being is that players at this stake love to call, since they over value hands like top pair.

Another bit of advice too, I'd tighten up your opening range a bit. Calling a raise with K 5 out of position will get you into trouble. I think it's about 17 % chance (or something similar) of you hitting your flush draw. Let's say the five on the flop didn't come but you paired your king and the other player bets. You are forced into a bit of a sticky situation.

Hope this helps!


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11-15-2018 , 06:51 PM
Also it would probably help if I actually read the original post correctly. My apologies lol


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11-15-2018 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob_

Another bit of advice too, I'd tighten up your opening range a bit. Calling a raise with K 5 out of position will get you into trouble. I think it's about 17 % chance (or something similar) of you hitting your flush draw.

The only reason I call was because I was the BB and was getting a good price on a chance to flop a draw thinking that if I did I would potentially get someone to stick around and get stacked. I'm not sure about that tho if I should keep doing these kind of cold calling in BB when only 2players are in the hand.

I basically pay .04$ to win a pot of 0.15$ so I don't know :/

Outside of that, thank you very for the advices they were really helpfull !
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11-16-2018 , 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Gibzerin0x
The only reason I call was because I was the BB and was getting a good price on a chance to flop a draw thinking that if I did I would potentially get someone to stick around and get stacked. I'm not sure about that tho if I should keep doing these kind of cold calling in BB when only 2players are in the hand.

I basically pay .04$ to win a pot of 0.15$ so I don't know :/

Outside of that, thank you very for the advices they were really helpfull !


I can see your logic, but it's just because you are out of position so it will be harder to win the pot. Playing suited connectors and hands like that maybe yeah, but k 5 should be a fold.

And no problem.


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11-20-2018 , 08:53 AM
pre is fine-ish
c/r flop gets more money in
check turn
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