Shortstackers, donk bets and a losing session @NL2
01-05-2018
, 07:59 AM
Hi guys, haven't posted in a while. Had a slight loser over 600ish hands at NL2 today. Looking back at the hands where I lost, a theme emerges - raising donk bets of shortstackers liberally / generally being a bit station-ey against shortstackers.
I have historically raised a lot of donk bets, especially if I have some sort of draw and it's been profitable, but after today I was wondering if the situation changes a bit vs shortstackers. Here are some examples
Villain in the 1st hand was VPIP:22/PFR:14/3BPF:5 over about 70 hands, so I thought it was extremely plausible that he had Kx in his range, and that he would have likely 3bet AJ+, and I have some equity with the draw so I went for a semi-bluff. The bet looked so small that I thought it was likely a probe, but on later inspection I realised he was probably pot-committed already by that point. Just a bit spewy from me I guess.
Villain in the 2nd hand was VPIP:15/PFR:12. I just figure I'm beat by the turn here, but again on later inspection, perhaps this is a call vs shortstackers? I don't know. It's very plausible that he might play some mid-pairs in this fashion as well as KQ, KJ.
Your thoughts and analysis would be much appreciated.
I have historically raised a lot of donk bets, especially if I have some sort of draw and it's been profitable, but after today I was wondering if the situation changes a bit vs shortstackers. Here are some examples
Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37919256
SB: $0.87 (43.5 bb)
BB: $2 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $1.60 (80 bb)
MP1: $2.11 (105.5 bb)
MP2: $0.89 (44.5 bb)
MP3: $0.98 (49 bb)
Hero (CO): $2.01 (100.5 bb)
BTN: $2.12 (106 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q
J
2 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $0.09, BTN folds, SB calls $0.08, BB folds, MP2 calls $0.07
Flop: ($0.29) 6
K A
(3 players)
SB bets $0.14, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $0.70, SB raises to $0.78 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.08
Turn: ($1.85) 3
(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($1.85) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37919256
SB: $0.87 (43.5 bb)
BB: $2 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $1.60 (80 bb)
MP1: $2.11 (105.5 bb)
MP2: $0.89 (44.5 bb)
MP3: $0.98 (49 bb)
Hero (CO): $2.01 (100.5 bb)
BTN: $2.12 (106 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q
J2 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $0.09, BTN folds, SB calls $0.08, BB folds, MP2 calls $0.07
Flop: ($0.29) 6
K A (3 players)SB bets $0.14, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $0.70, SB raises to $0.78 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.08
Turn: ($1.85) 3
(2 players, 1 is all-in)River: ($1.85) 8
(2 players, 1 is all-in)Spoiler:
Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37919257
UTG+1: $1.20 (60 bb)
UTG+2: $1.20 (60 bb)
MP1: $1.35 (67.5 bb)
MP2: $1.32 (66 bb)
MP3: $1.33 (66.5 bb)
CO: $2 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $2 (100 bb)
SB: $1.35 (67.5 bb)
BB: $6.26 (313 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with J J
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.06, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.21, SB calls $0.20, BB folds, MP1 calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.65) K 2 2 (3 players)
SB bets $0.20, MP1 folds, Hero calls $0.20
Turn: ($1.05) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $0.94 and is all-in, Hero folds
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37919257
UTG+1: $1.20 (60 bb)
UTG+2: $1.20 (60 bb)
MP1: $1.35 (67.5 bb)
MP2: $1.32 (66 bb)
MP3: $1.33 (66.5 bb)
CO: $2 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $2 (100 bb)
SB: $1.35 (67.5 bb)
BB: $6.26 (313 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with J
J2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.06, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.21, SB calls $0.20, BB folds, MP1 calls $0.15
Flop: ($0.65) K
2 2 (3 players)SB bets $0.20, MP1 folds, Hero calls $0.20
Turn: ($1.05) 5
(2 players)SB bets $0.94 and is all-in, Hero folds
Spoiler:
Villain in the 1st hand was VPIP:22/PFR:14/3BPF:5 over about 70 hands, so I thought it was extremely plausible that he had Kx in his range, and that he would have likely 3bet AJ+, and I have some equity with the draw so I went for a semi-bluff. The bet looked so small that I thought it was likely a probe, but on later inspection I realised he was probably pot-committed already by that point. Just a bit spewy from me I guess.
Villain in the 2nd hand was VPIP:15/PFR:12. I just figure I'm beat by the turn here, but again on later inspection, perhaps this is a call vs shortstackers? I don't know. It's very plausible that he might play some mid-pairs in this fashion as well as KQ, KJ.
Your thoughts and analysis would be much appreciated.
01-05-2018
, 08:34 AM
