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08-09-2018 , 10:21 PM
Sorry guys, don't play Internet poker much and my fist online hand post.
Bare with me!

Unnamed poker site. full ring game. 5c/10c blinds.
Hero BB JT
mp limp, HJ raise 35
Hero calls, limper calls
Flop KQK
Pot 1.10 (memory based, not sure of rake)
Action on Hero. Hero?
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08-10-2018 , 06:21 PM
Against 2 villains but with no interest in the pot I'd throw in around. 70 or .80 here.

Any raises and I'm inclined to get it all in.

If straights and flushes are outs for us we're a favourite.

Sucks if we're getting it in V a full house but it's a small and unlikely part of his range
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08-10-2018 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Gaminator22
Against 2 villains but with no interest in the pot I'd throw in around. 70 or .80 here.

Any raises and I'm inclined to get it all in.

If straights and flushes are outs for us we're a favourite.

Sucks if we're getting it in V a full house but it's a small and unlikely part of his range
Thanks gaminator, I didn't think anybody was going to respond.
I don't know why the low interest, but that being the case, I might just as well give the hand away.
Like I said I stink! Being more of a live cash game player, I did the conventional thing and checked to the raiser, waiting to see what he was going to do. He bet a weird 10c. Baffled by this bet size, I just called!
Ok, Turn is a T, what now?!
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08-10-2018 , 10:13 PM
I'll give you guy's one more chance, won't give result just yet!
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08-11-2018 , 02:41 AM
I thought raiser had checked to you. Sorry.

I'd check raise him in that case. Those tiny bets are usually someone trying to draw cheap although some players do this with a monster desperate to get some money in the pot.

As played I'd check to him. I'm looking to check raise again with my pair and monster draw
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08-11-2018 , 01:45 PM
Hey gaminator, nothing to be sorry about.
I thought this hand might generate some interesting back and forth.
Since that doesn't seem to be the case, I'll just go ahead and reveal what happened.
I pretty much butchered this hand. Shows my inexperience in online poker i guess.
Played a lot before 2011.

So turn was a T,
Board looks like this kQQT
After villains fishy 10c bet, third guy folds, I check called.
I didn't like that T of hearts. Don't know why, I was massively confused, I thought to myself, my only clean outs are probably the 9 and A, any other spade and I in all likelihood lose to Ax spade flush or villain has full house or straight on turn already.
So, not knowing what to do, I check again and villain this time bets 1.66.
This seemed like a value heavy bet and I folded!
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08-12-2018 , 02:35 AM
Based on your description, 1.66 is an overbet to a pot of 1.30. The flop underbet and turn overbet is confusing, but raising I the best way to find out where you really are. For him to be getting value out of an overbet, he must have close to the nuts and putting you on a strong hand that he beats. Your line by the turn reads zero strength.

You are underselling your hand by saying straight flush outs are your only outs. We know he could have KK, QQ, or KQ/KT, but those are rare and unfortunate, and you still have two outs! Many hands you are drawing dead if your opponent flopped the nut full house. If he has AK, all of your low straight (9) and flush outs are live (he can't have two spades if he has a king in his hand). Same with AJ, and you could boat over his straight with a 10, or split. If he has Ax of spades, you block his chances of getting to the flush and your pair could be good. KJ has you beat but he can't have a flush draw and you block his J boat outs.

Point is there are a million ways you could be ahead or very live, and you are never drawing dead.

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08-12-2018 , 01:31 PM
Thank you smeglacious, that was an excellent analysis.
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08-13-2018 , 07:38 AM
Whoa, don't fold turn. Call instead.
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