No Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10
8 players
Villain and I haven't gotten into many (if any) pots together yet, and neither of us has shown down any hands that were out of line. Should I be trying to get this in VS relatively unknown seemingly solid TAG reg?

UTG ($13.94)
UTG+1 - HERO ($9.68)
MP ($10.00)
MP2 VILLAIN ($9.50)
CO ($12.22)
BTN ($13.27)
SB ($4.79)
BB ($18.85)

Preflop: ($0.15, 8 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 7d 7s
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, MP calls $0.35, MP2 Villain calls $0.35, 4 folds

Flop: 6c Ah 7h ($1.20, 3 players - Hero: $9.33, MP: $9.65, MP2: $9.15)
Hero bets $1.14, 1 fold, MP2 Villain calls $1.14

Turn: 9c ($3.48, 2 players - Hero: $8.19, MP2: $8.01)
Hero bets $2.48, Villain calls $2.48

River: 8c ($8.44, 2 players - Hero: $5.71, MP2: $5.53)
Hero checks, Villain raises to $5.53 (all-in), Hero ???

lol I'm literally sh!!ting myself. That's basically the worst river card of all time.

I check/shove the turn all day here. AP, fold and then slap yourself when he turns over 2 sixes.

IMO checking the turn is the worst option here, because if he is on a draw he gets to see a free card. If I had played it that way, I would bet 3.20 on the turn.

On the river is a clear fold.

On the other hand I would prefer to limp with 7s from early position. If you get raised you follow the call20 rule. But by raising, you are already building a pot with only 12% chances to hit a set, which is not good. Most of the times you lose the pot having invested bigger amounts than you need to.

PS. : what is AP ?

AP I called and villain had literally air- no straight no draw. I can’t remember what exactly and I’m away from my computer this week on vacation.
My thinking at the time was that I need to call a very small percent of the time, so pretty much folding every Ace I could have here, and holding a 7 gives me the best straight blockers.
I think in retrospect if I were to call here it should with the 7 of clubs.

[QUOTE=WaterStr1der9 If I had played it that way, I would bet 3.20 on the turn.
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I think betting that much would lead to an awkward less than half pot river bet. I’m also trying to get value on the turn, so I definitely want all pairs with straight draws, flush draws and 2 pair hands to continue

I'll agree on this on FR NL10 zoom. Vs your typical opponent CR sooo doesn't work because they just don't bet. THEY DONT BET. YOU check, they check behind and then pot the f-king flush once they get there. _ (

Ugh, I'd fold. Too much **** that beats you.

I worry that the big bet size on the flop is going to induce snug folds on the turn and river, whereas if you bet more like 1/2 pot I could easily see you getting three streets of value from something like AJ.

I like that turn bet. If you check, I would worry that Villain would check behind with a fair amount of stuff like Ax, 98, draws, even some two pairs like 76 maybe because the board is kinda scary. But if you bet, I think you're going to get value from all of that. Hopefully two streets of value. And I think the sizing is good. I don't see any total junk Villain could have that would fold to this that would call a smaller bet.

That river is tough. The first question I ask myself is whether Villain would make that bet with anything that you beat. If Villain is the type that sees your check as indicating you don't have anything too good, and that it's safe for him to make a thin value bet... then maybe you'll be able to find some calls.

66 could in theory take that approach. Perhaps two pairs could also, in theory, take that thin value bet approach. But with the possibilities of flushes and straights, I really just don't see it. I feel pretty confident that opponents would just want to check behind and get to showdown. So I think this is a fold.

Absolute Poker

So, why did you open that much, 3,5BB from EP? I don't like doing that especially you'd be in a tough spot if get reraised. You'll be oop and as the effectives stacks are less than 100BB, this is not a good setmine.
Let's say you raise 2 to 2,5BB and everyone calls. You can go on your plan of betting potsize as you'll get called by many Ax up to the river. Many times, you can get luckier and get a good pot as well.

Sorry, I was just looking though old posts and somehow missed your reply.
TBH I don't really have a firm strategy for bet sizing in EP, and as a result I tend to vary my sizes from 2.2x-4x for no good reason. If you read this reply, I would be interested to hear your strategy for EP RFI bet sizing.

I think you can raise 5x from EP with a hand as strong as 77. Your goal is to take the blinds or see a flop HU, not multi-way. HU you will usually have substantial equity even when there are over-cards on the flop. Also, your perceived range will be stronger, so you will have better than usual fold equity pre-flop and post-flop given your opening position and raise size (which is fine considering most playable hands will have decent equity vs 77.) So if you are comfortable betting and barreling you can consistently win yourself decent pots on the reg, rather than always playing this hand conservatively or passively like other have suggested with limp/calling or making smaller open sizes--meh...
As for being 3bet, fold it or defend it depending on the player. I think 77 fits well as a call vs a normal 3bet range. Would fold vs passive/nitty players, and would 4bet shove vs aggro tards and some loose aggros.

I like the flop bet, but I would suggest making a much larger turn bet considering you are betting for value and a lot of V's calling range will likely have 20%-30% equity, so you should make this bet no smaller than 3/4 pot to charge max value vs V's whole range. V needs 30% equity to BE on a call using a 3/4 pot bet, so you could even go larger still to decrease V's direct and implied odds. I think there is a good case that can be made for over-betting this turn for value, since you are so far ahead of all of V's calling range on the turn, and direct odds/implied odds are very important at this point in the hand.

I think overall a just less than pot size bet would be most appropriate, as V will not often be at the top of his calling range with any flush-draw+ Straight-draw type hand, and you want to maximize value vs his pair of A's range that is nearly drawing dead.

I think the way I play this hand, with the larger open sizing and larger bet on turn, then I am def going with my hand on river considering there's nearly nothing left in effective stacks at that point.

They way your hand played, with no player read, I would check/fold that river shove because too much of V's turn calling range had got there. Even a few of his A hands have sucked out, like A5 and AT. I think a call here is a little too risky, as I don't usually expect many players to make large river bluffs after facing aggression on previous streets unless they are nearly nutted. Also, your flop SPR was pretty high around 7.5, so I would not want to be putting more than half of my stack in on the last street of the hand without being nearly certain it was a win.

I play on Bovada so as an exploit I like to alter my open size and I will open large with my premium to reduce the field, increase SPR, and decrease V's positional advantage while charging the max. It is important to get HU with premiums because you most likely to pay get paid off when betting for max value since you will get less credit than when multi-way. I like 5x as a standard, but will often raise 6-7x with fishier/looser players, even 8x on occasion. I don't see other players doing this, but I do and it wins.

I will raise my speculative hands smaller (no less than pot) because I can rely on the perceived range of my open position to generate good fold equity pre/post flop, and ultimately these hands will play best multi-way with high SPR's. I typically use a pot bet with my speculative range, sometimes 3x if the table is tough or exceptionally loose.

On tight tables I am opening 5x no matter what, and that's because the required fold equity is there, and I would like to put max pressure vs nits and weak/tights.

If you don't want to be obvious about it then mix in AA, KK, and AKs into your speculative range sizing these hands you want action and they are so strong you are not giving up much of an equity lead by allowing V's to enter the pot with wider ranges.

I think what's essential is observing the opponents at the table, determining who you are most likely to face in the hand, and then playing your hand according to a good SPR strategy. Who's on the BTN and in the blinds, where are the fish?

And a lot of this all changes when stack sizes change since it is an SPR strategy. Vs short stacked opponents you will be opening less, vs deep stack opponents you will open more. If the whole table was somehow deep-stack then I would open 7-8x almost my entire range. This would be good for maximizing value with premiums and speculative hands since in both instances you want to be playing for stacks as a base strategy for the hand.

Filter for 7-9 players and my EP winrate is 47.22bb/100. My CU is 21.11 and BTN is 12.93. I PFR 18.2 from EP. PFR 20 from CO and 20.9 on BTN w/7-9 players.

I think i'd fold

What do you do when someone check-raises you on the flop and you hold AA? Are you usually stacking off and are ahead most of the time?

With an SPR of <4 I am almost certainly stacking off, and on Bovada I expect to be good most of the time. I think that stands on all sites though. I have seen other info before where players were way ahead in bb/100 calling off with overpairs vs flop raises, and I think it is a fair play.

It is always conditional. Like I recently folded KK on a Q hi flop after V 3bet me. SPR was right around 1, but I was like this guy is only AA or QQ here, so I dumped it. V had AA when I looked up the hand later. That player was tight. Vs a looser more aggro player I would be stacking off in higher SPR spots, but not vs loose passive or obvious tight fish.