Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25, $0.05 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
Poker Tools by CardRunners - http://www.cardrunners.com/

BB: $25 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $26.72 (106.9 bb)
MP1: $25 (100 bb)
Hero (MP2): $57.65 (230.6 bb)
MP3: $85.90 (343.6 bb)
CO: $27.98 (111.9 bb)
BTN: $26.87 (107.5 bb)
SB: $60.44 (241.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9h 7c
UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 5 folds

Flop: ($2.25) 7h Jh 2c (2 players)
MP1 bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.25) 4c (2 players)
MP1 bets $3.25, Hero calls $3.25

River: ($11.75) 2s (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

*** SHOW DOWN ***
MP1: shows [Ac Ad] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
Hero: mucks hand
MP1 collected $11.22 from pot

Bad turn and river calls, provided me with a bluffing opportunity on the river once MP1 had checked to me.

By reviewing this hand, I realised the board had paired the river and that I could of easily bet 2x the pot ($20).


This would of put MP1 all in and it would of been interesting to see whether or not he would of called.




MP1's pokertracker 4 stats are shown below:


Hands played: 14
PFR: 21.43
VPIP: 28.57
Money won / lost: $5.18 LOST

Just check it back, (like you did). You obviously thought that your opponent was bluffing, and you have a bit of showdown value, so take your cheap showdown. Any bet from you would be a pure bluff, because nothing worse will call, and yet you have no need to try and win the pot with a bluff as you could easily have the best hand some of the time.

pre is sooo bad. and what exactly would you rep when you bet 20$ otr? 2x? there are heart and straight draws that busted, you would have raised a set on flop or turn, there is a very high chance that villain would have called your overbet! i wonder what your stats are when you call 97o in this situation...

What's pre all about flatting MP1 w/ 97o is never gonna be profitable.

Clear fold pre... River should be played as played... The river is basically the best card in the deck for Villain here & your asking your self if you should have over bet bluff river after taking a passive calling down line on a wet board that bricked everything & you have mid pair (ton of showdown value). Villain is calling about any hand that beats you like near 100% especially considering he is play somewhat competent stats. And while reviewing this hand are you thinking to yourself that villain check the river because he was scared the board paired? Highly likely he checked river to check call or check shove ... he letting you bet your air here bc that is what you have so often on this texture & run out.

Good call. I did not think he was bluffing. I was under the impression he was playing scared. However I did check in this situation and it seems by the feedback I have been getting that it was the right play (and I can understand why).

I only thought of the bluff attempt when reviewing the hand.

He is very tight-passive-aggressive going by his stats. He is definately not a TAG player at all. (I am confident of that).

He only played 14 hands at my table and then buggers off after being down $5. He only won 1 of those 14 hands.

A TAG player would be checking to try induce a bluff and to try and get value from busted draws vs his overpair. However I dont think this is the case with him. Someone else shoved all in against him in another hand with a similar stack size and he folded. (ironically). (on the turn with a 3 card flush on board).

Obviously a better scenario would of been if a scare card hit the river and then I bluffed him.

However, repping the 2 for rivered trips is pretty much the only card I can rep. I will continue to float the flop with nothing, 2nd or 3rd pair and see where it takes me.

Thus I quite like to see opponents 1 or 2 barrelling and then checking the turn or river, providing me with a bluffing opportunity in position.

I think the more the board bricks out.. the higher the bet. Thus why I decided to go for the ultimate - "2x the potsize bet" on the bricked river.

I found this link... read away

http://www.darkenedpoker.com/blog/?p=570

BTW - I am pretty confident that my opponents pain zone applies to the newbs fold rate graph - and not the experienced players one

Afterall, remember - I was only playing 10/25c NLHE and most of these guys are rocks.

I think the real competition starts at 25/50c for me.

Better players go by reads, not just by the bet they are facing. On the other hand, noobs go by bet sizes and not by reads. (illustrated by the graphs in that URL i provided above).

No idea what you're doing everywhere but this is the absolute nut worst river card to consider ''bluffing'' on, regardless off if we should even bluff with our hand this is definitely not the river to do it on.

Pre is just bad.

Alright. You guys have got me. After 6 hours agonising over my thoughts vs all of yours, I will reluctantly say... you guys are right

Poker is about making good decisions and capitalising on your opponents bad decisions.

And an overpair (Aces) is a perfect bluff catcher, on a board where all draws missed.

Enough said



Thanks for all of your comments

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25, $0.05 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
Poker Tools by CardRunners - http://www.cardrunners.com/

BB: $25 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $26.72 (106.9 bb)
MP1: $25 (100 bb)
Hero (MP2): $57.65 (230.6 bb)
MP3: $85.90 (343.6 bb)
CO: $27.98 (111.9 bb)
BTN: $26.87 (107.5 bb)
SB: $60.44 (241.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9h 7c
UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 5 folds

Flop: ($2.25) 7h Jh 2c (2 players)
MP1 bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.25) 4c (2 players)
MP1 bets $3.25, Hero calls $3.25

River: ($11.75) 2s (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

*** SHOW DOWN ***
MP1: shows [Ac Ad] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
Hero: mucks hand
MP1 collected $11.22 from pot

Bad turn and river calls, provided me with a bluffing opportunity on the river once MP1 had checked to me.

By reviewing this hand, I realised the board had paired the river and that I could of easily bet 2x the pot ($20).


This would of put MP1 all in and it would of been interesting to see whether or not he would of called.




MP1's pokertracker 4 stats are shown below:


Hands played: 14
PFR: 21.43
VPIP: 28.57
Money won / lost: $5.18 LOST




I REPEAT... DO NOT MAKE THIS PLAY ALL NOOBS - IT CRIES OF A BLUFF AN HIS ACES (OVERPAIR) WILL BE HAPPY TO CALL SENSING THE BLUFF...

villain was never folding river. He checked to give you a chance to bluff busted draws/air or to value bet thinly with Jx or something similar to TT. The size of your river bet wasn't going to matter.

I have no idea why you called preflop.

You could have raised turn/jammed river if you wanted to turn your hand in to a bluff. That would have worked fairly consistently vs a marginal to strong single pair range.

why bash pre? 97s can easily be a profit hand vs a lot of players.. 96s not as much though

even if it were suited, hero´s position sucks. we´re inviting callers (or even worse) squeezers behind us. --> loosing play

that was me 6 years ago lol.

i'm a much better player for sure. just came back to 2 plus 2 - the best poker forum online

97o is bad. 97s can be played from later.