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05-14-2020 , 02:57 PM
PokerStars - $0.16 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $16.00
UTG+1: $21.90
MP: $22.85
MP+1: $39.76
MP+2: $12.61
CO: $31.90
BTN: $43.12
SB: $17.22
Hero (BB): $16.24

SB posts SB $0.08, Hero posts BB $0.16

Villain is 31/18 after 92 hands

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.24) Hero has J Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 calls $0.16, CO raises to $0.45, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.44, MP+2 calls $1.28, CO calls $0.99

Flop: ($4.40, 3 players) 6 2 T
Hero bets $2.10, fold, CO raises to $10.50, [color=red]Hero ???

i cant really call here so have to see river, but when I look back at this I don't think I can count my overcards so just really have a flush draw. I have ~ $13 left so wont push hiim off

Any other thoughts on the play?
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05-15-2020 , 12:21 PM
Sure.

Your biggest mistake is 3betting preflop. Why 3bet? You have a great hand to call and see a multi-way flop. 3betting massively overvalues your hand and basically turns it into a bluff. General rule of thumb at 16NL, don't 3bet light unless villain proves capable of folding to 3bets (and even then, this is not the hand to do it with.)

As played, I'm torn on cbetting flop or checking. Probably merits to both and very villain-dependent. But 100% of the time you're folding to a raise here. Not even close. Simple pot odds.
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05-15-2020 , 02:18 PM
Well, this is why opinions are like body parts

No problem with the 3 bet. Probably prefer a call, but V is at least somewhat loose pre and you might have some FE. You can confirm whether this was what you were thinking.

I like a somewhat bigger Cbet ($3-3.50), but as played I am still shoving. The bd str8 has some value, and the overs may or may not have value. You need about 38% win rate for breakeven and you almost have that on the flush and bd str8. You have to give almost no value to the overs to make it -EV. AT, JTs, T9s all seem within his range. If he has any bluff range (AK, Ax, midpairs) that is all +EV. 22, 66, and TT all possibilities where V has uberouts, but I think worst case is it is very close. If nothing else I would shove for table image.

BTW, I am an old man and hardly a wild child. I may have a slight preference for gambling so maybe I am more inclined to play if it is close.
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05-16-2020 , 09:00 AM
Villain was on the looser side so I wanted to raise there. Agree though at 16nl, might not be the most optimum.

i think the fold is the play here if I get raised as overs you have to discount.
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05-17-2020 , 08:08 AM
3b pre is fine, get it in on the flop you are only in really bad shape against sets.
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05-19-2020 , 04:54 PM
I 3bet this preflop every time especially vs that weak sizing from CO, your sizing is far too small, should be at least $2, they're not going to fold for that price.

CO shouldn't have any 2 pair, he shouldn't have AA or KK here either. He does have a lot of draws and overplayed top pair hands though.
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05-19-2020 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by moxterite
He does have a lot of draws and overplayed top pair hands though.
It's the Axc draws that concern me the most.
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