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Old 04-25-2008, 03:54 PM   #126
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:50 PM   #127
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hey all thanks for the help

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Old 04-26-2008, 12:49 AM   #128
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Just in case it was misinterpreted, if you read the OP this thread is how to critique your own stats. It takes a while to critique stats, and people will probably be more helpful if you've read through both pokey + mpeth's post and posted your self-analysis.
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Old 04-26-2008, 12:51 AM   #129
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Just in case it was misinterpreted, if you read the OP this thread is how to critique your own stats. It takes a while to critique stats, and people will probably be more helpful if you've read through both pokey + mpeth's post and posted your self-analysis.
i grunched the OP so thanks for the tip
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Old 04-26-2008, 07:02 AM   #130
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Hello 2+2,

These are some stats of mine after recently switching to 25NL. Is anything obviously wrong here? I followed pokey’s post about pokertracker to analyze my own game a bit.




Aggression looks alright to me. As long as I don’t play too many tables (6 or so), I can keep my aggression really high and take down a lot of pots. Is it too high?

It looks like I’m pretty aware of position. I’m opening up immensely on the button compared to early position. Maybe I should open my range from cutoff/hijack, but probably only based on table dynamics and stats.
Stealing blinds 27% of the time. This looks alright.

Here’s something that might be a leak:
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4. Defending the blinds. Click on "Turn Filter Off," and then click on "Filters..." again. Under "Blind Status" click on "Either Blind." Now under "Vol. Put $ In Pot" click on "Put Money In." This shows you if you're bleeding money out of the blinds. A "BB/Hand" of about -0.375 would indicate that you were no better off putting money into the pot than if you had folded. If your "BB/Hand" is larger than that, then you typically win back some of your blind money when you put money into the pot from the blinds. That's all you can really hope for.
My bb/100 from the SB is -0.05 and from the BB it’s -0.04. Pokey says I’d lose less if I’d just fold in the blinds every single time. Am I not folding to steals enough? My “Fold BB to Steal” is 83.1%. I find it hard to think that this is too low… Am I missing something here?

When I filter to pocket pairs only, my vpip is 94% and my pfr is 71%. Recently, I tried to force myself to not raise 22-55 from utg and to just fold them. Is this bad?


Filtering to suited connectors shows that I’m losing money with KQs. This is probably due to losing a huge preflop allin hand to a Friday night drunk who called me with K7 and won, but I digress. I’d still be losing if I didn’t count that hand. Is KQs a hand I should 3bet in position and fold out of position?

I wanted to check my continuationbet%, but I couldn’t find it in PT3. It’s around 80% though. Is this too high at 25NL?

Generally I’ve not been giving respect to limpers anymore. If the cutoff limps, I’ll raise any hand I’d steal with from the button, not giving credit to the limper. Is this a leak?

If I’m in the big blind and the small blind completes after it’s been folded around, I’ll raise any two cards. Is this a leak?

Thanks for the time.
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Old 04-26-2008, 07:42 AM   #131
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Fidoh, some thoughts:

No, folding 22 - 55 UTG isn't bad at all.

Yes, try and open up your CO range a little bit


And in pos, with a hand like KQs, I usually call a raise. 3 betting seems to leave me behind when someone calls more often than not. It's also a hand to fire with if the initial raiser doesn't fire a cont-bet or you think he's cont-betting light and want to raise him.

As for raising limpers and SB, I do the same. Don't see anything with it.

Hope I could help.
Looking good so far.
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:25 AM   #132
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KQ is great for raising but bad for calling with, you'll probably end up losing lots to AK & AQ...
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Old 04-27-2008, 05:46 PM   #133
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Can anyone see any thing wrong with my stats? I know theres flaws b/c my winrate is really low. Any suggestions on how to not lose so much from the blinds?

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Old 04-27-2008, 05:55 PM   #134
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b/c my winrate is really low.
No it isn't. You're winning. Silly man.

Imho, don't call so much from EP. My pfr from ep is almost the same as my vpip. If you're going to play small pocket pairs from ep, just raise them.

From the blinds, you're doing better than if you had just folded your blind every single time, so don't feel too bad. It has a column "amount needed to post blinds", see? You lost less than that amount, so no reason to feel bad.
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Old 04-27-2008, 10:28 PM   #135
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Many thanks to mpethybridge for this thread. I've started to make an effort to improve my game and the guidelines/advice in this thread is really useful.

Started on NL$10 about 4 months ago and I'm comfortable and confident at that level. But when I moved to NL$25 last month I got crushed in most of the sessions I played. (mostly 6-max)

I've been looking over my stats and found massive, MASSSIVE leaks in my game. Calling down and not raising enough, mainly I'm as aggressive as a sheep on tranquilisers.

Still down 9 buy-ins over the 9k hands I've played at NL$25 but still have a solid bankroll from grinding NL$10.

Forcing myself to stick at it.
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:16 AM   #136
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Good luck!

Post some hands where you did a lot of calling, and we'll tell you where you should have raised
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:31 PM   #137
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Hmm...bad Session, lost about 7 Stacks(happens, dont want to cry about) So I thought i ask you guys to tell me somethings about my Stats :-)







Does anyone see anything that I could improve on? Thanks in advance.

Btw. its BB not PTBB on general Info
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:54 PM   #138
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You're stats look very good in general.

I think you could still open up more in the BT/CO. Always look for player based situations rather than hand based situations here... for example, there is a large group of players that I will raise on the button with any two cards. There is another large group who I will raise with a loosened range from my normal button range. Also I almost never limp from the button, which it looks like you do quite a bit.

Your stat's aren't bad at all though, I thought the 7 was ptBB at first and had to reread your post. THEN I would have been impressed
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Old 04-29-2008, 01:47 PM   #139
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Hi all I've been 24 tabling 10NL fr this month a bit and slowly learning. I understand my stats are supper nitty, but Ive been getting a bit more loose overtime. I've lost quite a few buyins trying to float and make moves vs some of the 16+ tablers, with some success, so my winrate should be a bit higher.

Any comments/suggestions on my stats for this month, Thanks
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Old 04-29-2008, 08:10 PM   #140
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Hi all I've been 24 tabling 10NL fr this month a bit and slowly learning.
Any comments/suggestions, Thanks
Cut down on tables to focus on improving. Play 12 and try to focus.
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Old 04-30-2008, 02:07 AM   #141
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Hey i move up to nl50, but my profit is very low at now.







Any advice?
If u need more stats or hands or anything, tell me and i post to analyze
Thanks

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Old 04-30-2008, 03:32 AM   #142
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I've been losing confidence in my game lately. I don't know if I've developed some huge leaks or if I'm just getting outflopped more lately (variance). I feel like I'm getting run over at 25nl quite a bit. I've been shutting down OOP w/ TP type hands and going into c/c mode a lot on dry boards. I also think I c/c too much on the river when I should be b/f - that's why my river agg. factor is lower than flop and turn.

April Stats for FR 10nl and 25nl:



I have a PokerEV graph as well but I mainly use it to see if I'm aggressive enough because I don't find the rest of it much help besides the hand replayer, ie. green line running below red: I feel like I need to be more aggressive and PokerEV comfirms that because I'm bleeding in hands that don't go to showdown, but I seem to pick the worst possible spots.

And then I finally decided to take a look at my graph for this year and I thought lol ~150k hands and still at 25nl, time for some help. I'm rolled for 50nl but I don't feel like I can beat 25nl decently yet and I want to do that first - for at least 6 ptBB/100.

0-18k: 10nl
18k-55k: 25nl
55k-78k: 10nl
78k-148k: 25nl with about 15k of 10nl mixed in here and there



I had been 12 tabling 25nl at the end of March / beginning of April for 8 ptBB/100 but that didn't last. I am now down to 6 tables trying to improve.

Any ideas would be awesome.

Edit: My pocket pairs have also not been hitting sets as often as they should this month (1600 pocket pairs on the flop, 154 flopped sets) and I noticed A LOT of my profit in the past has come from sets, by far the majority. I don't really consider myself to be a set miner, but maybe I am or perhaps I play them well for extraction. I would like to open up my game so that I don't have to rely on sets for profits though.

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Old 05-01-2008, 01:05 AM   #143
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JH1,
I'm no expert here, but I see a few things and will give an analysis a go.

First, look at how your game has changed when you moved from 10NL up to 25NL. At 10NL, your VPIP and PFR percentages were 14.6 and 7.6, respectively. At 25NL, your stats are 12 and 6.5ish. You run considerably better at 10NL with 7.28 ptbb/100 (granted in only 1/3 as many hands) than you do at 25NL with 1.72 ptbb/100. Why do you think you're playing differently at those levels? IMO, the competition is not that much stiffer at 25NL than at 10NL. Figure out which style you're most comfortable with and stick with that.

Second, if you want to play 14% of your hands, then I would try to raise closer to 10% of them preflop. I think in general you want to be raising closer to 2/3 of the hands you play as opposed to 1/2 of them. I try to keep hand ranges in mind for the game I'm trying to achieve. For instance, a 15% VPIP would be any pair, AK, AQ, KQ, suited connectors 45+, and any suited A. Now, for your raising range let's say for the sake of argument that you want closer to 10%. So, your raising range would be any pair 66+, AK, AQ, suited aces, KQs and QJs. (These are just examples ranges, obv. you should play/raise the hands you're comfortable with.) I would try to close the gap between your VPIP% and PFR% such that they are closer together.

Third, your W$WSF at 10NL is pretty close to 35%, which is good, but this stat is a little off at 25NL at only about 33%. I'd personally try to get as close to 35% as possible. When you are the preflop aggressor, how often/what % of the time do you cbet? Again, I think your stats are telling you that you play differently at the two levels. What worked for you at 10NL will most likely still work at 25NL, IMO, so maybe try to figure out why you are playing differently and go back to the confidence you played 10NL with.

Fourth, in order to be considered aggressive, I think your AFs need to be above 2 on every postflop street. Your river AF is suffering here and as you stated in your OP, maybe you need to take a b/f line more often than a c/c. I need to work on my AFs so I'm afraid I'm not much help here.

Fifth, positional stats look okay to me. I think in general you want to raise 2/3 of your VPIP%. You open up to a VPIP on the BTN to 18% and are raising 10% of those hands. I think you could probably get away with raising more than the top 10% from the button, but, again, it's what you are comfortable with. I usually play an overall game of 13/8, but am trying to get closer to 14/10 and from the button, I'm 20/14. I would raise more than 10% from the button is what I'm trying to say here . Your other positional stats indicate that you are seriously tight until you are in the HJ position. In every postion other than HJ/CO/BTN, you are raising less than 5% of your hands (pairs 77+, AK, AQs). Do your positional stats change between 10NL and 25NL?

Okay, that was a quick and dirty as I just finished a session. Again, take my opinions for what they're worth as I'm no expert. I personally find that I play differently as I move up, too, and I'm trying to keep myself from altering my game too much as my style has been profitable thus far. The games get harder as you move up, but I think you clearly play a little bit differently at 10NL than at 25NL and this may be what's effecting your ptbb/100 since the competition isn't necessarily that much more difficult/different between the two levels.
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Old 05-01-2008, 05:32 PM   #144
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any major leaks? if any more info needed, just ask.
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Old 05-02-2008, 04:55 AM   #145
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to tight rene u need open up in cutoof and hijack also not just the button
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Old 05-02-2008, 11:35 AM   #146
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Old 05-03-2008, 08:39 PM   #147
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Any idea what I'm doing wrong? The only thing I notice is my flop AF being high but I think that's to do with the fact that I don't call that much rather than I'm betting too often. Looking at my graph I think I'm a breakeven player that ran hot for his first 8k hands and I've pretty much got no confidence in my game right now. Watching countless winning players videos and seeing how I take similar lines most the time just makes soooo stressed at the fact that I don't know why the hell I lose.
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Old 05-04-2008, 07:31 PM   #148
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I honestly feel I`m playing greater now than I did on my initial upswing..
Sets are destroying me..
How can I check how many SETS i`ve made limping through PT3

It honestly seems over the course of 8k hands i`ve limp-connected like 8 sets.

oh and what`s up with my BUTTON ......
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:30 PM   #149
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can someone explain what the lines mean on a graph,(green, red and blue) and what they represent
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:33 PM   #150
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Green is your non-showdown winnings + showdown winnings (ie your total winnings)
Blue is you're showdown hand winnings
Red is your expected showdown winnings (ie what you should have won probability wise)
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