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02-05-2009 , 12:26 AM
once you "ctrl-alt-prnt scrn" how do you get that into a picture format that can be uploaded.....

I tried pasting it into word and then saving the image but that didn't work
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02-05-2009 , 01:33 AM
Hmmm, I don't know. I use the snipping tool in Vista for capturing screenshots which I can then save to my picture gallery.

PM Pele or ask in the February Chat thread. Lots of smart people on this forum.
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02-05-2009 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by zRzGzDz
Please, please, please help before I go busto...



running 17/10....I probably need to start raising more, or limping less



I'm getting killed from the BB, although I feel I am positionally aware



January was getting better...was running about 2ptbb/100 before going into the red due to my last 900 hands



The damage....

how does everyone here post their images the quality of mine are pretty ****ty so I apologize for that. I'd like to repost so that they are easier on the eye
You lose a lot not only in the blinds but also in EP. So I can quite safely conclude that you are bad OOP.
The first thing I would do, which should increase your results, is just playing absolute premium hands in EP and raise all of them. Just stay at AA-TT, AK, AQs in the first 3-4 positions after the blinds.
The blinds are more complicated for the time being I would concentrate for EP first.
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02-05-2009 , 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by zRzGzDz
once you "ctrl-alt-prnt scrn" how do you get that into a picture format that can be uploaded.....

I tried pasting it into word and then saving the image but that didn't work
1. Activate the window then press Alt+prnt scrn
2. Open MS Paint and press Ctrl+V
3. Click File - Save As...
4. Give it a name and save it as .jpg (default is .BMP so you have to change it to .jpg)
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02-05-2009 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty Nails
Hmmm, I don't know. I use the snipping tool in Vista for capturing screenshots which I can then save to my picture gallery.

PM Pele or ask in the February Chat thread. Lots of smart people on this forum.
Didn't even know that existed....thanks.
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02-05-2009 , 02:03 PM
Okay I wanted to re-post my stats since they are actually viewable now



So my it seems my natural playing style is 17/10...I looked at a smaller samples and it all converged around this number. Is this a huge leak considering I am playing 10NL?

W$WSF is 38.6% seems half decent, I one of my biggest problems is trying to win every hand and not folding TPTK....stacking off very lightly. I noticed that very few of my sessions I have minimal losses. for most sessions I am either in the green or down close to 100bb



I am bleeding out of the blinds up through MP1...Is the easiest way to correct this by tightening up? I think I call to much outa blinds when I see I am getting offered 6/1, 7/1, etc....but I think I am learning those are not that great considering the crap you often see in the blinds



January was an improvement....



this needs to point up....
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02-06-2009 , 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by zRzGzDz
Okay I wanted to re-post my stats since they are actually viewable now



So my it seems my natural playing style is 17/10...I looked at a smaller samples and it all converged around this number. Is this a huge leak considering I am playing 10NL?

W$WSF is 38.6% seems half decent, I one of my biggest problems is trying to win every hand and not folding TPTK....stacking off very lightly. I noticed that very few of my sessions I have minimal losses. for most sessions I am either in the green or down close to 100bb



I am bleeding out of the blinds up through MP1...Is the easiest way to correct this by tightening up? I think I call to much outa blinds when I see I am getting offered 6/1, 7/1, etc....but I think I am learning those are not that great considering the crap you often see in the blinds



January was an improvement....



this needs to point up....
based on ur graphs, u donate alot more than give uo winning. Basically calling light too much. (Nelson Ha Ha). I will post my graphs over 40K and see how I compare.
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02-06-2009 , 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by zRzGzDz
Okay I wanted to re-post my stats since they are actually viewable now



So my it seems my natural playing style is 17/10...I looked at a smaller samples and it all converged around this number. Is this a huge leak considering I am playing 10NL?

W$WSF is 38.6% seems half decent, I one of my biggest problems is trying to win every hand and not folding TPTK....stacking off very lightly. I noticed that very few of my sessions I have minimal losses. for most sessions I am either in the green or down close to 100bb



I am bleeding out of the blinds up through MP1...Is the easiest way to correct this by tightening up? I think I call to much outa blinds when I see I am getting offered 6/1, 7/1, etc....but I think I am learning those are not that great considering the crap you often see in the blinds



January was an improvement....



this needs to point up....
I would tighten up in EP for a while only playing premium hands in UTG, UTG+1 and MP1

Don't cold call so much OOP.

Your WTSD and W$SD makes me believe you are taking to many marginal hands to showdown. TP type hands maybe?

For the blinds check out post #489 ITT.
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02-06-2009 , 06:01 AM
This is a fantastic post. A number of small holes. But I reckon where u prob spew chips is that you are not aggressive enough and not tight enough.

Specifically:

You're not positionally aware enough
you're cold calling too much in EP and MP
your not aggressive enough in LP
Not aggressive enough on later streets
not stealing enough

In a nutshell: tighten more in early position and raise more in late position and value bet your hands on every street. If reraised fold.
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02-06-2009 , 06:19 AM
Well i've nearly put in 10K hands at 10NL and thought it would be a good time to try get some feed back on my stats. I feel my game is average most of the time, but i don't really know how to identify my leaks so hopefully someone picks up on something here. If i should include any other info i'll be happy to add it to this post.







Thanks for any advice
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02-06-2009 , 06:50 AM
how do I upload the PT3 graphs?
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02-06-2009 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Jedi Speed Racer
how do I upload the PT3 graphs?
Take a screenshot and save it in MS Paint as .jpg. Then get an account i.e at ImageShack and upload the .jpg. Then you can use the image in a post ITT.
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02-06-2009 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ruebs
This is a fantastic post. A number of small holes. But I reckon where u prob spew chips is that you are not aggressive enough and not tight enough.

Specifically:

You're not positionally aware enough
you're cold calling too much in EP and MP
your not aggressive enough in LP
Not aggressive enough on later streets
not stealing enough

In a nutshell: tighten more in early position and raise more in late position and value bet your hands on every street. If reraised fold.
Ruebs is right, but I feel all this could be to much at once. But say you start with tightening up in EP, playing premium hands. You will get this:
You will get more positionally aware
Cold calling will decrease (asuming you raise premium hands in EP and don't limp)
The gap between VPIP and PFR will get smaller b/c your PFR will be the same but your VPIP will get lower.
WTSD and W$SD will get better b/c you will take fewer but better hands to SD.

So all this you get by just tightening up in EP IMO. When you get the hang of it you can start to open up more, raise and steel more in LP.
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02-06-2009 , 11:44 AM
Brand new cash player, what I have in my PT stats is my whole cash game experience except for 5k hands of .01/.02 NL

i suck at 6 max, some guy on my left tilted me hard after bluffing me with a bunch of all ins and than showing me air so the next day i went back to TAG FR. i bought in every level with 4 maximum buy ins and about 20k hands i bought into 25NL with $100. from there on, it's all 25NL and the blue is 25NL 6 max I gave it a try. this is all 8 tabling fast tables so i don't get to really look at my play, i'm more of a TAG robotic knit but i am considering my last stretch of playing bad because my non SD wins are failboating.

i know my bankroll management with 4 max buy ins was stupid and i could of tilted it away but i'm sticking around 25NL with 20+ buy ins til I am sure I can take a step at 50NL but I do think I can move up soon once I figure out wtf is with my non SD!




i'm not the aggro machine i once was anymore, i do a lot more calling with TP than reraising as long as i don't put villains on flushes or straights. as you can see, i win my showdowns cause i'm a knit but my non showdowns is straight to the crapper. is it cause my lack of aggression now?


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02-06-2009 , 05:03 PM


Does this graph make me show that im lacking in the nutsack region?
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02-07-2009 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jedi Speed Racer


Does this graph make me show that im lacking in the nutsack region?
i think ur graph and my graph both means we are a bit too tight but ya you are losing a lot. i assume you are calling with pocket pairs, someone raises you, you call, miss, fold.

that's what i've been doing and it has been making me go downward with non SD but its allowing me to win huge pots when i do hit
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02-07-2009 , 04:17 PM
I recently reached 10K hands @ Stars and would like to post some charts for flamming me and my bad play . 2 problems , I am on a mac and did not see how to upload pics using mac . And I use poker co pilot so I do not have the same graphs that I see everyone else posting . I can probably figure out how to post Screen shots , but what are the most important charts I should post ?
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02-07-2009 , 09:47 PM
Would love some input, this is my first ~10k hands at 25nl:





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02-08-2009 , 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by slowcheetah1
Would love some input, this is my first ~10k hands at 25nl:





keep doing exactly what you are doing.

(actually, you could call a few more 3 bets (in position).

Otherwise, excellent stats.
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02-08-2009 , 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Nutz?
I recently reached 10K hands @ Stars and would like to post some charts for flamming me and my bad play . 2 problems , I am on a mac and did not see how to upload pics using mac . And I use poker co pilot so I do not have the same graphs that I see everyone else posting . I can probably figure out how to post Screen shots , but what are the most important charts I should post ?
vpip/pfr/cc/af/ats/w$wsf/wtsd%/W$sd/3bet/fold to 3 bet

show your position stats

if your software can graph showdown and non-showdown winnings, post a shot of that graph as well (and if it can't, switch software, lol).

to show the screenshots, save them, upload them to photobucket or imageshack and use the image code to link to them.
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02-08-2009 , 04:51 AM
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Does this graph make me show that im lacking in the nutsack region?
lol.

filter it to remove the blinds. If it is still negative, then, yep.

j/k; if it is still negative then you are definitely playing too weak tight post flop; if it is positive, then it is just a problem in the blinds (which may or may not be a leak).
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02-08-2009 , 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Boxerz
Brand new cash player, what I have in my PT stats is my whole cash game experience except for 5k hands of .01/.02 NL

i suck at 6 max, some guy on my left tilted me hard after bluffing me with a bunch of all ins and than showing me air so the next day i went back to TAG FR. i bought in every level with 4 maximum buy ins and about 20k hands i bought into 25NL with $100. from there on, it's all 25NL and the blue is 25NL 6 max I gave it a try. this is all 8 tabling fast tables so i don't get to really look at my play, i'm more of a TAG robotic knit but i am considering my last stretch of playing bad because my non SD wins are failboating.

i know my bankroll management with 4 max buy ins was stupid and i could of tilted it away but i'm sticking around 25NL with 20+ buy ins til I am sure I can take a step at 50NL but I do think I can move up soon once I figure out wtf is with my non SD!




i'm not the aggro machine i once was anymore, i do a lot more calling with TP than reraising as long as i don't put villains on flushes or straights. as you can see, i win my showdowns cause i'm a knit but my non showdowns is straight to the crapper. is it cause my lack of aggression now?


Then move up; your non-sd line is excellent.

I think you could tighten up a bit--you are in a lot of pots in EP, and you are limp calling a lot. Your preflop stats are pretty unbalanced, which solid regs at $25 and $50 will be able to exploit.

You are right at the borderline of leaking in the BB--keep an eye on that loss rate and try to improve it a bit (by stabbing a tiny bit more postflop, for example) or at least keep it steady where it is.

Focus on improving your positional awareness, but keep playing the game you are playing, for the most part, as it is definitely working for you.
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02-08-2009 , 09:16 PM
Ya I sucked for a while, I almost almost back in the positive tho.

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02-09-2009 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mpethybridge
lol.

filter it to remove the blinds. If it is still negative, then, yep.

j/k; if it is still negative then you are definitely playing too weak tight post flop; if it is positive, then it is just a problem in the blinds (which may or may not be a leak).
so youre telling me that wen ppl post their red and blue line graphs, they filter out blinds?
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02-09-2009 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by cds0699
Ya I sucked for a while, I almost almost back in the positive tho.

ur graph looks nothing like mine, which is posted above. I am gonna post a graph without the blinds soon.
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