This is the full ring forum. You'll certainly get better advice over on the 6max forum.

If you're trying to adapt your game by playing more hands then I'd start by playing less tables since you're going to be in more new spots which is going to be trickier from a cognitive point of view.

It's probably easiest to expand your button and cutoff ranges first so that you'll be in position more often which should make things easier post-flop.

If you've got a very high flop c-bet then bring that down a bit too or otherwise you'll be very exploitable. If you don't have one already develop a check-calling range for yourself.

I am playing 9-handed 10NL on wsop.com. After 25,600 hands I am winning 18.8bb/100 and I see the flop 14.7% of the time. I look to only play in games with over $2 average pot and over 23% players seeing the flop. I consider myself a good player as I win 10bb/hr at $1-$2NL live and 8bb/hr at $2-$5NL live. Is 18.8bb/100 sustainable? What is a good win rate at the 9-handed .25-.50NL on wsop.com? Why is .25-.50NL the highest offered at 9-handed when $100-$200NL is the highest offered 6-handed?

STATS CHECK PLZ

Hi there, first post ever.. im playing mostly full ring .50$/1$ , between 4-8 table at the time depending of the time/day.

i was wondering if you could give me feedback on my stats please. i have no idea what stats to aim for. the one in this thread are from early 2000 not sure if its still apply today.

also if anybody playing around the same level would like to share some data, for example win rate per position and stuff so we can compare. talk about hands and/or study or something hit me up.







thanks for any input

Nice! Tight is right, so it seems! Not playing too aggressive and it works out.
Inspiring! (haha)

Obviously you are winning! So it's not like changes are necessary.

However this is how I would attack you if I am your Villain.

I see that you are not that much positionally aware, as your VPIP/PFR are consistent through all seats. I don't know what is optimal, but my own CO & BU PFRs are 3-4% higher than my overall PFR. This makes my late position raises harder to play against.

In your case, I will be respecting most all of your raises so you don't make much money off of me.

Since I do see a slight gap between VP/PFR, I know you are limping a little bit. Since you're not that positionally aware, I will attack all your limps, even the early and middle position ones, which should usually be a lot stronger, but not in your case.

If you ever 3B I will fold unless I have AA or KK, since you seem to be ultra nitty there. I imagine to move up in stakes you'll have to develop a wider 3B range, because better players won't pay you off as much when you 3Bet, so you'll have to start bluffing a bit there.

I think your flop CBet at 48% is rather low, so that if you ever Cbet I am more inclined to fold my bluff catchers.

I reduce significantly my CBET raising IP & OOP range, given your stronger Cbet range.

I bet all flops that you check to me given your low AFq, and adjust based on how often you continue.

Given your high W$SD, I am very cautious if you ever make it to river and bet, folding more bluff catchers than usual.

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That's my strategy to beat you. Hope it helps you improve your game! Let me know, I am rather new to analyzing hud stats.

Any obvious leaks I should work on?
I don't like playing online, just played these to get a decent/small sample size to check my stats.

Hands are all full ring 2NL with me playing 8 tables.
Definitely not playing my top game most of the time.

One obvious leak I noticed is that I call too much in certain spots.

https://gyazo.com/954ca8ae281cd6835ccbe0cd270c0357

Hello, i recently moved up to nl5

I want your opinions here please

Hi I'm just getting back into online. Basically I can't play live as often as Id like so I play online to practice thoughts and lines.

I'm playing .02/.05 fr games in ignition because I'm trying to simulate a 1/2 or 2/5 live game. The game seems nearly identical to a live 1/2 game. Tons of limping, 3b ranges seem too tight, no positional awareness, etc.

I see a ton of stats in the "nitty" range of 20/15 or tighter. Mine (4k hands) are closer to 28/22 range.

My btn range unopened is probably 50/50 type of stat.

I pound the crap out of my co/btn just like I would in a live game. I can't remember off hand but think my btn stats are something like 38/33 with 12% 3b.

I'm trying to figure out if this "laggy" play is profitable or I'm just running good (well I know I'm running good all in ev, as I've won AK v AK 3 times and lost 0 haha. But thinking more broadly).

I'm on my phone now and can't post Holden manager stats, but curious what people's thoughts are regarding profitability of a "laggy" style in full ring. I'll post stats later today or tomorrow, even though it's only 4-5k hands.

Hi All -

Appreciate your thoughts and will do my best to payback if I ever get to a point where I feel like I know what I am talking about. Thanks in advance!

Back from a 3 - 4 year break, and currently working on my game again. Please critique my stats.

^massive nit pre
good thing you're playing droolers who aren't punishing you

Any pointers on where I can open my game up more?

Take it with a grain of salt since i am losing money, but I call 3 bets from early position a LOT wider than you with a somewhat wider opening range to start and I checked my PT stats and still making $$$$. Perhaps I am not making as much as I should or something, but I am calling like twice as much ....

So opening up your game will result in you getting into some sticky situations. Id recommend opening up from btn and co first. That way you have position.

First off if unopened to you open up any 2 cards than can flop a straight or a flush (so 62o and 72s are opens). Then if facing one person either start calling or 3! Wider (villain dependant, try both see what you prefer) hands like 64s, J8s,76o, 85s are all reasonable.

Obviously what I'm saying will send you a little too far over the "loose" side, but it's going to put you in some sticky spots that will help you learn.

After you get more comfortable keep doing this from slightly earlier positions (or the BB when closing the action).


Note: I'm not saying this range from btn and co is a massive winning strategy, I'm saying it's a good way to learn and it probably won't cost too much money given you have position.

Thanks for the advice. I’ve made a conscious effort to open up from LP more (RFI and 3bet etc), and for the reasons you state too.

I’ve also cut down tables as I feel I autopilot a lot which may or may not be a contributing factor to the nitty fit and fold game I’m currently playing.

I’m currently studying up on my river call efficiency, as again I have been advised elsewhere that this stat is too high.

So another thing I'd recommend. This is applicable to everyone not just you btw.

Understand what your general river tendencies are. What are you more likely to do naturally make a hero fold or a hero call. Then build your early street strategies around that tendency. Getting the river wrong is going to be more costly than getting preflop or flop wrong.

Example I'm inherently a calling station. Don't get me wrong I can make big folds (I've folded 2 full houses this week and both were right). So my strategy early is to keep villains range as wide as I can. What this does is it makes them get to the river with too many hands and therefore their river bluff frequency is too high. So my natural state of calling becomes way more profitable.

I do this by playing a laggy style pre and on flop. But I'm laggy with a merged range and generally smaller bet sizes. By playing a lot of hands aggressively people call me lighter pre and on flop. What I notice is the vast majority of villains split their range against me on the turn. So I typically play the turn extremely polarized. So when I check back the turn people have their flop range against me which is typically too wide. This allows me to call the river lighter.

If you like folding the river, you want to polarized your range as early as possible. 3! and 4! More, bet bigger (over pot) early, bet the turn often. Really narrow the crap out of villains range. Front load your aggression so that when villain makes it to the river you are confident he's at the top of his range. This will allow you to profit by overfolding.

This is BLITZ50... pretty bad
I was tilting and calling off rivers
all comments welcomed and appreciated
Most winning regs in the game are nittier 16/12 on average but solid
I haven't played online for years thus I am way behind the times but willing to improve and going through grinders manual and Upswing.

Some more stats 7000 hands only:

Will add updated stats on 200 upswing...

No comments so far thus I will try to analyze it myself...
Opening to much from EP and MP?
VPIP and PFR - to high and gap to big?
3bet -9% - to high
folded to 3bet 54% - to loose - should fold more
4bet 10% - high
fold to 4 bet 55% - not enough
Agg 4.1 - OK?
Cbet 78% - to high
Fcbet 37% - not enough
WTSD 67% - ? - very bad?
W$@SD -19% ? - very bad?

Could anyone suggest some filters to run on PT4 to find leaks? Or perhaps point me to videos/articles?

Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r3zueeLEuc

I haven't watched this particular vid but I like this guy's content
the process will be similar on pt4, just takes some time to find all the buttons you need, I guess

Thanks for this

2NL 6max
It's my stats. I know there are probably a lot of weaknesses here, but name the biggest ones.

I think you lack a bit of positional awareness, you're kinda lose from the lowjack and kinda tight on the button.

Other than that, you play pretty aggressively preflop which is good. Postflop, it seems you play relatively conservatively. I can't say for sure but I doubt you do much bluffing and semi-bluffing. Guess it comes with the NL2 territory--there's little point in bluffing stations.