and hands of the day! when you lose like this 3 BI on 1.6k hads and someone told you its not rigged?! BTW 50 hands with pair one and time hit set on flop?! beautiful probability! when that dont want you to win you will just lose all your hands in a row!

Full Tilt - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 102.8 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.91, PFR: 3.78, 3Bet Preflop: 1.30, Hands: 2,789)
UTG: 97.5 BB (VPIP: 20.78, PFR: 8.61, 3Bet Preflop: 4.19, Hands: 8,323)
UTG+1: 106.6 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 2.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 50)
MP: 71 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
MP+1: 231.9 BB (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 6.18, 3Bet Preflop: 1.53, Hands: 342)
MP+2: 100.7 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: 98.7 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BTN: 67 BB (VPIP: 51.75, PFR: 13.78, 3Bet Preflop: 4.08, Hands: 232)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J

fold, fold, MP raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, Hero calls 1.5 BB, fold

Flop: (9 BB, 4 players) J J 7
Hero checks, MP bets 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, MP raises to 8 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, MP raises to 16 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

Turn: (41 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 29 BB, MP raises to 53 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 24 BB

River: (147 BB, 2 players) 9

and all against new players .. thay just come hit like this 3,4 hands, go 3,4 BI up in 30-40 hands and you newer see him again, i mean newer .. you look for him on all levels, he dont exist any more ... just strange for online poker

and no one to answer to my initial question .. do I def BB and SB god or bad??

one more "new player" u just cant win them ...

Full Tilt - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 144.4 BB (VPIP: 43.48, PFR: 26.09, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 23)
MP+1: 162.9 BB (VPIP: 38.29, PFR: 13.26, 3Bet Preflop: 2.92, Hands: 363)
MP+2: 119.5 BB (VPIP: 20.62, PFR: 8.53, 3Bet Preflop: 4.18, Hands: 8,598)
Hero (CO): 184.2 BB
BTN: 79.7 BB (VPIP: 58.02, PFR: 9.16, 3Bet Preflop: 1.67, Hands: 131)
SB: 92.6 BB (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.10, PFR: 6.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.71, Hands: 1,162)
UTG: 182.1 BB (VPIP: 24.85, PFR: 7.15, 3Bet Preflop: 1.90, Hands: 675)
UTG+1: 105.9 BB (VPIP: 21.15, PFR: 3.85, 3Bet Preflop: 1.55, Hands: 3,000)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5 5

fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, MP raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, SB calls 1.5 BB, fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB

Flop: (11 BB, 5 players) 7 5 3
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP bets 11 BB, Hero raises to 27 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 16 BB

Turn: (65 BB, 2 players) 9
MP bets 65 BB, Hero raises to 155.2 BB and is all-in, MP calls 50.4 BB and is all-in

River: (295.8 BB, 2 players) 6

boorsleepy..that's not your personal tread! if u want to post this hands u can do this here

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...rags-variance/

if u don't like this "rigged" game then try to find another hobby!
please stop posting this junk..and please spare us your stupidity!!
try to find your brain! if u have one...

first! I post my graph and ask for comment and do I def BB and SB good or bad .. but you and everybady else with "brain" dont comment that, but instead you ask do I belive that variance are rigged, and I post my argument that thay are ... but still dont get answer on my question from you with "brain" ... and belive if you are at all see my graph to I know something about poker ...

u are an idiot*..in a row..
try golf*

why do you think it is that no one wants to help you?

Because I dont still get a answer ..

No one is going to give you answer when you continue to act like a stupid, spoiled, child.

@bornsleepy. The real question is: if u think the site is rigged, why do u still play there? Either quit playing there or accept it is rigged and stfu. Idk what u expect to achieve by posting here. Either start yr own thread or stop posting, preferably the latter. Surely u must realise by now posting here achieves nothing.

no one is forced to answer u! same as u r not forced to play online poker..
try dance. ...

is something wrong with this post??? This thread is used for this I guess?? and then just look for answer bolow?? so I am crazy on this thread or thay?? but its ok, I post same on other forums and cultural got the answer in next 4,5 post ... just here for some reason are all defenders of online poker, thay know everything, just when U ask actually something about poker, u dont get a answer ...

Go away

8 time yestrday lose like this! 6BI lose ... full tilt is rigged!!!

Full Tilt - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 94.2 BB (VPIP: 22.66, PFR: 11.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.72, Hands: 3,719)
MP: 98.4 BB (VPIP: 21.62, PFR: 10.81, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 37)
MP+1: 98.6 BB (VPIP: 60.98, PFR: 14.63, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
CO: 21 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BTN: 97.6 BB (VPIP: 34.18, PFR: 16.24, 3Bet Preflop: 4.73, Hands: 480)
Hero (SB): 130.6 BB
BB: 87.6 BB (VPIP: 61.25, PFR: 21.25, 3Bet Preflop: 6.06, Hands: 81)
UTG: 223.9 BB (VPIP: 19.62, PFR: 11.27, 3Bet Preflop: 5.01, Hands: 6,880)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 1 BB, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, MP+1 calls 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB

Flop: (10 BB, 3 players) 4 5 J
Hero bets 6 BB, fold, BTN calls 6 BB

Turn: (22 BB, 2 players) A
Hero bets 15 BB, BTN calls 15 BB

River: (52 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 48.5 BB, BTN raises to 73.6 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 25.1 BB

Can someone here explain to me how, if you're playing against the same players who play exactly the same, all the same, only on nI5 you crush them, and at the same time on NL10 you are break even .. if it is all the same, then just variation are different .. I'd like someone explain to me how in one poker room at the same time variations can be so difference on two stakes?!!!

please just argument answers ... tnx

to hell and back in 3 days ...

and of corse start again .. u can win big pot! thay just dont let you win! in this spot on full tilt AA lose 70% of time! thats everybady who play there know! same time on 2 tables .. do you know chnace to this hapend in same time? i bet u dont!

Full Tilt - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 125.7 BB (VPIP: 24.68, PFR: 7.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 77)
MP: 72.1 BB (VPIP: 53.85, PFR: 30.77, 3Bet Preflop: 28.57, Hands: 13)
MP+1: 315.9 BB (VPIP: 41.11, PFR: 6.74, 3Bet Preflop: 4.40, Hands: 1,834)
MP+2: 173.4 BB (VPIP: 11.35, PFR: 8.57, 3Bet Preflop: 2.02, Hands: 753)
CO: 108.3 BB (VPIP: 79.20, PFR: 8.06, 3Bet Preflop: 13.95, Hands: 127)
BTN: 40.1 BB (VPIP: 33.71, PFR: 11.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 89)
SB: 104.1 BB (VPIP: 28.19, PFR: 6.71, 3Bet Preflop: 3.77, Hands: 150)
Hero (BB): 136.7 BB
UTG: 95.9 BB (VPIP: 52.63, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A

fold, fold, MP raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, CO raises to 7 BB, BTN raises to 11 BB, fold, Hero raises to 46 BB, MP calls 42 BB, CO calls 39 BB, BTN calls 29.1 BB and is all-in

Flop: (178.6 BB, 4 players) 3 3 6
Hero bets 90.7 BB and is all-in, MP calls 26.1 BB and is all-in, CO calls 62.3 BB and is all-in

Turn: (329.3 BB, 4 players) T

River: (329.3 BB, 4 players) 9



Full Tilt - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 103.8 BB (VPIP: 35.34, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 2.38, Hands: 116)
Hero (UTG): 107 BB
MP: 90.4 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
CO: 21 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
BTN: 72 BB (VPIP: 16.86, PFR: 12.45, 3Bet Preflop: 2.65, Hands: 941)
SB: 94.2 BB (VPIP: 19.20, PFR: 1.96, 3Bet Preflop: 0.66, Hands: 4,156)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7 7

Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (15 BB, 5 players) 4 6 7
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 18 BB, fold, CO calls 18 BB and is all-in, fold, fold

Turn: (51 BB, 2 players) 9

River: (51 BB, 2 players) 5

All right, here's a graph to make you feel a bit better bornsleepy. You're not the only one that runs like shut for 50k hands. But just trust me, it's part of the game. You just deal with it and get through it.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=129

yes, just when i come back ( like you) start new, its go over and over again in a circle in the meantime, I lost another hand with 90% that mean that I am again 2,5 BI down in just 200 hands??? so if I lost hand with 90% on turn about 50% of time ,, whit what hands i will exploit bad players when thay just call and hit much more than thay shuld???

if I do everything as it should be ... that means I lost just because variance ... and I lose a lot!

and something like this ... Ak vs Ax will lose more than 50% of time .. we talk here just about variance!

Full Tilt - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 95.6 BB (VPIP: 26.77, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 1.76, Hands: 877)
BB: 75.4 BB (VPIP: 22.53, PFR: 8.79, 3Bet Preflop: 2.13, Hands: 368)
Hero (UTG): 100 BB
UTG+1: 79.4 BB (VPIP: 39.29, PFR: 1.19, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 85)
MP: 118.2 BB (VPIP: 23.58, PFR: 6.60, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 106)
MP+1: 63.8 BB (VPIP: 61.19, PFR: 10.45, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 67)
MP+2: 17.4 BB (VPIP: 43.00, PFR: 7.86, 3Bet Preflop: 2.34, Hands: 412)
CO: 43.6 BB (VPIP: 16.94, PFR: 12.02, 3Bet Preflop: 2.59, Hands: 1,049)
BTN: 100.2 BB (VPIP: 46.15, PFR: 1.92, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K A

Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (9.4 BB, 2 players) T J 2
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB

Turn: (11.4 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 7 BB, MP+1 calls 7 BB

River: (25.4 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 12.6 BB, Hero raises to 88 BB and is all-in, MP+1 calls 39.2 BB and is all-in

and again .. this is all hands in a row, all deals in a row!

Full Tilt - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 91.2 BB (VPIP: 26.70, PFR: 4.32, 3Bet Preflop: 1.75, Hands: 883)
UTG+1: 78.4 BB (VPIP: 23.02, PFR: 9.26, 3Bet Preflop: 2.04, Hands: 382)
Hero (MP): 105.4 BB
MP+1: 92.2 BB (VPIP: 37.78, PFR: 1.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 91)
CO: 116.8 BB (VPIP: 22.32, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 112)
BTN: 158.8 BB (VPIP: 61.64, PFR: 9.59, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 73)
SB: 193.8 BB (VPIP: 11.09, PFR: 8.64, 3Bet Preflop: 1.99, Hands: 897)
BB: 100.2 BB (VPIP: 41.38, PFR: 1.72, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 58)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q A

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 4 BB, fold, BB calls 3 BB, UTG calls 3 BB

Flop: (16.4 BB, 4 players) 9 7 Q
BB bets 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 16 BB, BTN raises to 31 BB, fold, Hero calls 15 BB

Turn: (79.4 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 70.4 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 70.4 BB

River: (220.2 BB, 2 players) 3

can sameone tell me how u can lose all deals in a row like this??? and again some "new player"??? so "accidentally" it became .. 3,5 BI in 278 hands whit what equty????

go go go ... in how many hands you will be -75$??? thay dont let you to win ... just for case! record 3B with KK is 10 in a row A hit flop

Full Tilt - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 37.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (SB): 134.6 BB
BB: 63.4 BB (VPIP: 47.62, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 2.63, Hands: 86)
UTG: 172 BB (VPIP: 10.96, PFR: 8.57, 3Bet Preflop: 1.96, Hands: 916)
UTG+1: 90.8 BB (VPIP: 47.65, PFR: 24.83, 3Bet Preflop: 9.46, Hands: 150)
MP: 128.2 BB (VPIP: 19.64, PFR: 11.29, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 7,181)
MP+1: 130 BB (VPIP: 29.70, PFR: 9.90, 3Bet Preflop: 2.63, Hands: 101)
CO: 346.8 BB (VPIP: 51.49, PFR: 14.19, 3Bet Preflop: 14.12, Hands: 575)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K K

fold, fold, MP raises to 3 BB, MP+1 calls 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 13 BB, BB calls 12 BB, fold, MP+1 calls 10 BB

Flop: (42 BB, 3 players) A 3 9
Hero checks, BB bets 1 BB, MP+1 raises to 45 BB, Hero calls 45 BB, BB calls 44 BB

Turn: (177 BB, 3 players) J
Hero checks, BB checks, MP+1 bets 72 BB and is all-in, fold, BB calls 5.4 BB and is all-in

River: (187.8 BB, 2 players) 8