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01-29-2013 , 05:36 PM

#5051

bronx.system

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Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,328

hey all is there a stat that awares you how often someone is leading ott after yo ucheck back flop?

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01-29-2013 , 05:56 PM

#5052

LUVtehNL

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,983

this is my last 30k hands. 50% NL25, 25% NL16 and the rest is NL10. All FR.
any idea where i could search for some leaks?

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01-29-2013 , 07:10 PM

#5053

MartL

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Originally Posted by bronx.system

hey all is there a stat that awares you how often someone is leading ott after yo ucheck back flop?

On HEM I think its Vs Missed Cbet. Theres one for in position and OOP.

Edit: Guess thats ok as long as you are talking been the pre flop raiser.

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01-29-2013 , 07:15 PM

#5054

MartL

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Originally Posted by LUVtehNL

this is my last 30k hands. 50% NL25, 25% NL16 and the rest is NL10. All FR.
any idea where i could search for some leaks?

You are getting hammered in the BB and need to figure out why when it looks like you are playing the Sb well. Your turn cbet from the BB is a touch on the high side, maybe you are picking bad spots to DB.

I would also say that your W$SD is verging on been too high which maybe suggests you are folding in some spots where you still could have the best hand. Not sure on this one but I guess there could also be some spots where you arnt value betting thinly enough.

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01-29-2013 , 07:25 PM

#5055

LUVtehNL

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,983

^^ thank you!!
i know i have a serious big blind leak but i cant figure out how to analyze this. Do you have any idea how to start searching my database? or would you prefer to take like 1hr coaching to get this thing fixed since i think overall im not a huge whale

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01-30-2013 , 08:41 AM

#5056

Tailyn

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 175

Hey, yea your BB is your biggest concern. By just folding everything, except broadways and value hands you can take this down drastic, cause always folding would mean a loss of only 22bb/100. Your CC% looks is 8% = 88+, AJo+, ATs+, QJs+. Ofcourse this doesnt apply cause some of these you will probably 3b. I think something to think about is just
3betting your full range of hands from the BB instead of Cold calling a part of it?

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01-30-2013 , 04:46 PM

#5057

LUVtehNL

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,983

^^ thank you man! i dont really get your last sentence. you mean i should lean to 3bet my whole range?? Also i don´t get why always folding my bb would make a loss of 22bb/100. shouldn´t it be -100bb/100?

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01-30-2013 , 05:02 PM

#5058

socialPSYcho

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 17

NL5, RUSH poker at FTP, what i need to do. I'm at about 100$ down. I'm started to review hands and stats in my PT4. I realised that when I'm facing PF action : 1 Raiser . My winnings are -130$ !!! After big research i have found out that i don't know how to act, when facing Rise. I'm 3BETting only with AA, AK, KK, sometimes QQ, JJ. So, problem maybe is in calling? Maybe i call a rise too much? When should i call or 3bet a rise?
Also, here's my 'info'.

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01-30-2013 , 05:20 PM

#5059

LUVtehNL

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,983

^^ what i can see (im not good at reviewing stats) is that you are calling way too much. your vpip is 20 and your pfr is 10. don´t know where to start tbo.
- fold alot more preflop
- fold more postflop as your wtsd is too high i think
- get vpip/pfr numbers closer together
- maybe get someone to look over your game

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01-30-2013 , 05:21 PM

#5060

Jolly2702

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 598

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Originally Posted by socialPSYcho

isolate 1 raiser out of the blinds and in the blinds. also I am interested in your winrates by position overall.

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01-30-2013 , 05:36 PM

#5061

socialPSYcho

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 17

LUV, yeah, i'm trying to improve in that.

Jol, i think those stats you want ?

And what you mean about isolating ? I should isolate players who are left by 3beting riser bet? Or what? maybe somewhere i could read about it? And with what hands and how i should do it?

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01-30-2013 , 05:50 PM

#5062

Jolly2702

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yep those are the ones. Immediate concerns are your CO and especially your SB. make it a habit of 3betting or folding the vast majority of your hands from the sb, and 4betting or folding from the CO. you need a really good reason for flatting 3bets from any position or even just opens from OOP, and they usually involve massive whales who are already involved or left to act.

there are at least 2 COTWs for 32betting, so check those out for a basis of coming up with 3b/4b ranges.

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01-31-2013 , 07:38 AM

#5063

Declanisfolding

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 759

Back once again, having played about 23K hands @ 10nl.

My stats:

My own observations are.
Happier with VPIP/PFR gap now.
Slightly concerned that Ft3b @ 79% might be exploitable by reg who 3bet light.

Flop Cbet is still toohigh @ 80% although I have been really watching this the last 7000 hands and have it @ 70% for that sample.

I would appreciate advice on other stats as I do not know how to interpert them.

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01-31-2013 , 10:30 AM

#5064

MartL

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Originally Posted by Declanisfolding

Back once again, having played about 23K hands @ 10nl.

My stats:

Looking good. Yeah your fold to 3bet may be a bit high but not really something to worry about too much at NL10 as most people arnt 3betting light and it may also just be a sample size issue.

Again cbet may be too high but again you can probably get away with it at this level without too much trouble.

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02-02-2013 , 10:17 AM

#5065

Yazzx

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Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,927

Sup guys, I need help colour coding my HUD, 3 colours is fine: one for too much, one for too little and one for 'standard'.

The stats which I need help colour coding are: 3-Bet, Turn C-Bet, Fold vs. Turn C-Bet, CO Raise First, BTN Raise First, SB Raise First, SB Fold vs. Steal, SB 3-Bet vs. Steal, BB Fold vs. Steal and BB 3-Bet vs. Steal.

It would be so awesome if someone could help me with this, thanks.

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02-02-2013 , 07:19 PM

#5066

XMenCypher

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,575

http://www.cardschat.com/f57/here-co...em-hud-149891/
I use these mostly but I modified some of the statistics a bit to reflect my observations of ranges. Just search google and something will come up

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02-02-2013 , 07:43 PM

#5067

Yazzx

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Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,927

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Originally Posted by XMenCypher

That's nice, ty man

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02-02-2013 , 09:54 PM

#5068

jhicks99

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 101

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Originally Posted by Yazzx

Leakbuster has the 3-bet, c-bet, and steal stats in their full ring and 6-max huds you could use as a reference if you have access to them. They use 5 colours though, red-orange-blue-yellow-green, blue being neutral. If you want, I could post the info here.

Last edited by jhicks99; 02-02-2013 at 10:08 PM.

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02-03-2013 , 01:26 AM

#5069

Yazzx

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Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,927

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Originally Posted by jhicks99

The steal ones would be really handy! I think I've got everything else. Thanks

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02-03-2013 , 02:03 AM

#5070

jhicks99

centurion

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 101

Sure, these are from leakbuster (I average out the BB/SB steal stats and just have one steal/resteal stat on my HUD).

SB Fold vs. Steal: 65 75 85 90 inf
SB 3-bet vs. Steal: 4.8 6.2 10.8 14 inf
BB Fold Vs. Steal: 57 65 76 82 inf
BB 3-bet vs. steal: 5.5 7 11 13.2 inf
TOT steal: 24 29 40 47 inf

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02-03-2013 , 11:17 AM

#5071

Yazzx

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Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,927

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Originally Posted by jhicks99

Nice, tyvm

Helps a lot!

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02-03-2013 , 02:12 PM

#5072

Rapidesh123

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Trying to play tighter and bluff a lot less,
so i reduced a lot of my range from all positions, specially from LP, from 60-70 to 22,
re-stealing from 11-17% to 8%, also folded a lot more to steals(which is kind of tough, since it went REALLY up), to 85% fold to steal.
do you think those stats are fine?
ah, my VPIP/pfr changed from 16/14 to 11/9, is this fine? i really feel like a nit ;~

i still bluff a lot for people in my stake(a looooot less than before),
do you think this style will keep moving me on though NL10/NL25?

hands played today

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02-03-2013 , 02:13 PM

#5073

Rapidesh123

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also i began making a lot of hero folds, like folding bottom/mid set on some spots(facing river check/raises), folding OTF a lot(still floating and calling PPs on some boards)

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02-03-2013 , 02:30 PM

#5074

MartL

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You just don't seem to get it. It isn't what style you play, 10/8 will work for some people and 23/17 will work for others it is how you play each hand that matters.

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02-03-2013 , 03:20 PM

#5075

Cangurino

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You know what's a good way to find out if a style can work? Play it for a significant sample, see if you win, see what situations give you trouble, work on those.

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