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06-19-2008 , 04:08 AM
It doesn't count towards VPIP.

So what's up with these open limps?
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06-19-2008 , 09:31 AM
My first month at 25NL after being a slight winner at SnG's, basically i want to know if anyone can spot any irregularities in my stats. One i've noticed is that i win more from the Hijack than i do from the CO :S

Also, with my Sklanksky bucks Line being above my Green line, does that mean i've ran below expectation?











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06-19-2008 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RKi
Also, with my Sklanksky bucks Line being above my Green line, does that mean i've ran below expectation?
EV graphs are generally regarded as pretty crappy, because they're misleading. To see if you've been running crappy after the money went in, look at your all-in luck graph (generated by the same program). Your sklansky bucks tries to answer the same question (have I been running bad), but takes when you got the money in into account. If you get 99% of your stack in with the best hand, then get the last bit in AFTER then turn when your opponent pulls ahead of you, your all-in bucks will say "you didn't get unlucky, he had you beat when all the money was in". But your sklansky bucks will say aha, MOST money went in ahead, so you won sklansky bucks!

Compare the blue line (showdown winnings) to the red line to see if you're running well. So it looks like you're running pretty good lately (blue line above the red line) but this could obviously be off. It doesn't account for coolers or heaters (set over setting someone) as long as the money went in after the sets hit.

Compare green line (actual winnings) to blue line (showdown winnings).Looks like you're losing money in non-showdown pots, which isn't a big deal... it's just something else to know about your playstyle.

Overall, EV graphs can be pretty crappy and misleading, so I wouldn't put a lot of stock into them.
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06-19-2008 , 08:25 PM
Hey guys,

Would someone mind checking out my stats please? Ill post 2 sets of stats. The first is before I purchased PT3 and the second is since Ive had PT3. Not many hands I know, but I'd be grateful for any opinions. Thanks

Before PT3:




Since PT3:



Thanks guys
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06-19-2008 , 09:53 PM
newcomers,
play 30k hands more and then post ur stats
kthxbai
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06-20-2008 , 06:43 PM
I know that the last post says to play at least 30K hands, however I'd rather ask now at the 10K mark and make adjustment before things go wrong.

As I read this small PFR% won't guarantee me sustainable winnings or at least I won't be making as much as I could. The thing is that for the frist 2K hands I was really playing too TAGish however for the other 8K(especially the last 2K) the only thing I was limping was with 22-JJ and sometimes AA/KK from UTG. However, from middle position I would be the first to raise with any suited connector down to 56 and from late position I add suited gappers and when folded to me would try to steal the blind with any two cards but yet again for example my steal attempt is too low. Can anyone tell why is this happening? Am I cold calling too much from late position? Or I just think that am doing the stuff that I just explained but actually I'm not paying too much attention to what exactly am doing?Although I have BR for the upper limit in the next 30days I plan to put another 20K hands and want to maximize my winnings.
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06-21-2008 , 06:43 AM
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06-21-2008 , 08:14 AM
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06-21-2008 , 08:47 AM
It isn't.
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06-21-2008 , 10:45 AM
I've made the blog public and I can access it even when I'm not signed, don't know what happens, anyways..
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06-21-2008 , 02:56 PM
Why so much open limping?

Also lmao at winning two cents with a straight flush
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06-21-2008 , 10:19 PM
whats with the multiple network connections?
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06-22-2008 , 04:39 PM
Why so much open limping?
I was open limping so much only the first 3-4K, right now I do it only with 22-JJ or AA/KK from UTG

Also lmao at winning two cents with a straight flush
The straight flush was a royal straight flush on the board... split pot

whats with the multiple network connections?
I use athnena to catch my neighbours' wireless when I am in Greece and these are some network bridgets ****s that do noting...
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06-23-2008 , 01:32 AM
Ok so when i started this month i was at NL25...made about 10ish buyins their and moved up (my roll was ready for NL50) then after i moved up i made about another 10 buyins...i started to noticed that the last few days i was running hot...so i moved up again!...made about 10 buyins at NL100..you can tell i was feeling pretty dam good..

then i had a -5 buyin session at NL100 so i moved back down to NL50 and made another 4 buyins so i figured i was good..right?...noo...played another 3k hands at NL100 and lost another 5 buyins...

so i moved down completely to NL50...and lost 8 buyins...wtf...

i just need to know if this is normal at all... is this completely std or am i just hitting a run of bad luck?..

btw i have never ever had AA vs KK AIPF ever...ive had KK vs AA AIPF like 15 times..

sry for this vent but i would just like some opinions and how to handle this

EDIT: strech is ment to be stretch in the title lol



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06-23-2008 , 01:54 AM
Standard run of bad luck.

How's your roll? If you have enough, stick it out at 50 until you're comfortable and winning again.
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06-23-2008 , 01:58 AM
its good still have 20+ buyin's at NL50

sry forgot about this sticky ..ty for moving it
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06-23-2008 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JMRE
Ok so when i started this month i was at NL25...made about 10ish buyins their and moved up (my roll was ready for NL50) then after i moved up i made about another 10 buyins...i started to noticed that the last few days i was running hot...so i moved up again!...made about 10 buyins at NL100..you can tell i was feeling pretty dam good..

then i had a -5 buyin session at NL100 so i moved back down to NL50 and made another 4 buyins so i figured i was good..right?...noo...played another 3k hands at NL100 and lost another 5 buyins...

so i moved down completely to NL50...and lost 8 buyins...wtf...

i just need to know if this is normal at all... is this completely std or am i just hitting a run of bad luck?..

btw i have never ever had AA vs KK AIPF ever...ive had KK vs AA AIPF like 15 times..

sry for this vent but i would just like some opinions and how to handle this

EDIT: strech is ment to be stretch in the title lol



I think you should spend like 50-100k hands at one level before moving up so that you know that you can beat it and are ready for the next level. Spending 100k hands at one level and you wont have any questions regarding downswings or upswings in regards to you success.
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06-23-2008 , 03:38 AM
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I was open limping so much only the first 3-4K, right now I do it only with 22-JJ or AA/KK from UTG
It's a consensus that you should open limp with nothing. Get a sample of 10K hands without ever open limping, then recheck.

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i started to noticed that the last few days i was running hot...so i moved up again!
If you are winning because you are running hot, then moving up is the last thing that should come into your mind. If you are winning despite running bad, THAT would indicate it's a good idea to move up. You can of course always move up if you can afford to take a shot (seeing as you're not too fuming, I guess we can treat your case as that), but don't expect anything at all (it seems you did). To be CERTAIN that you will survive at the next limit, you need to crush your current limit over 300K hands (100K might do if you can determine from EV graphs that you're not running hot, but I guess people don't really trust them).

10K stretches, heaters and downswing don't just exist, they're very, very, very standard.
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06-24-2008 , 10:22 PM




any help?
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06-25-2008 , 08:47 AM
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any help?
These stats seem ok, can you post by position? Are you going to much all-in when trying to steal blinds? You might just be card dear, I am your good concide with atoher goods but second best hands, something like this, you should give more details.
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06-25-2008 , 01:07 PM


How are my stats? PFR is possily too low and I should double my stealing I guess?
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06-25-2008 , 03:18 PM
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How are my stats? PFR is possily too low and I should double my stealing I guess?
Dude, post over how many hands are these stats... otherwise you can increase your PFR, decrase your Fold SB to Steal to 90% and increase a little your steal % but without incomplete information it is just guessing.
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06-26-2008 , 05:30 AM
10k hands
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06-26-2008 , 10:15 AM
I used to grind SNGs and played cash games very little. I've recently decided to go do this seriously. This is the first time I've played 40k hands in just a matter of 25 days. Usually it takes me 6 months to play this many hands. I slowly moved up from playing 4 tables to 16 tables. I think I've been running bad but not sure. AA made 4bb/100, KK only made .77bb/100.

Something's not right. Any advice helps.

http://picasaweb.google.com/cannedri...91878078311730

http://picasaweb.google.com/cannedri...91910929891042

http://picasaweb.google.com/cannedri...92494120033250

Last edited by catch10110; 06-26-2008 at 10:22 AM.
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06-26-2008 , 11:29 AM
Stats seem fairly legit to me to be honest, might be a string of bad luck. I'm not sure about flatting that much on the button, but otherwise I definitely can't see nothing major. You don't open limp much, right?

How about you filter down to hands where you cold call, then take a shot of the position stats highlighting button as well as one the overall hands in extended display?
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