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NL2 - TPTK on 3h board vs donk? NL2 - TPTK on 3h board vs donk?

01-02-2018 , 08:51 PM
V is a standard drooler.

#H:55, VP:26, PR:0, AF:12, Donk:75

Do we stack off here everytime against a guy who donks all the time? Is it better to just call with 2 ppl behind us and re-eval river? Can we raise smaller and fold to a jam?

    Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02, $0.01 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

    Hero (BTN): $7.85 (392.5 bb)
    SB: $2.23 (111.5 bb)
    BB: $2 (100 bb)
    UTG+1: $2.36 (118 bb)
    UTG+2: $1.97 (98.5 bb)
    MP1: $2 (100 bb)
    MP2: $1.92 (96 bb)
    MP3: $2.50 (125 bb)
    CO: $4.80 (240 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with K A
    UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.02, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.10, SB calls $0.09, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $0.08, MP2 calls $0.08

    Flop: ($0.51) K 3 7 (4 players)
    SB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $1.81 and is all-in, Hero ?

    NL2 - TPTK on 3h board vs donk? Quote
    01-03-2018 , 08:37 AM
    I think it's a clear fold.
    If the guy's a drooler, this is a flush, a set or some fish-tacular 2pair that he want's to get it in with to "protect his hand against the draws".
    At the very least he has some kind of flush draw in which case you have some equity but not a lot. His range crushes you: if you include all the made flushes, sets, 2pairs, all you're beating is flush draws and you lose some of the time against them too.

    I don't think you played the hand badly (unless you called the shove ), there are a pile of KQ, KJ, KT etc type hands that call the bet, and you have position so if more scary flush cards come you can decide what to do on later streets accordingly.

    I had a similar spot this morning.




      Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37917801

      BB: $0.83 (41.5 bb)
      UTG+1: $2.91 (145.5 bb)
      UTG+2: $2.55 (127.5 bb)
      MP1: $0.62 (31 bb)
      Hero (MP2): $4.83 (241.5 bb)
      MP3: $0.58 (29 bb)
      CO: $2.39 (119.5 bb)
      BTN: $2.05 (102.5 bb)
      SB: $1.65 (82.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q K
      UTG+1 calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.06, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.06, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.04

      Flop: ($0.21) 9 Q 8 (3 players)
      UTG+1 bets $0.26, 2 folds

      Spoiler:
      Results: $0.21 pot ($0.01 rake)
      Final Board: 9 Q 8
      UTG+1 mucked and won $0.20 ($0.14 net)
      Hero mucked Q K and lost (-$0.06 net)
      BTN mucked and lost (-$0.06 net)



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      This player had stats like 54/2/3.5 over 35 hands. Theres just no reason to get heavily involved in this spot - you'll get a better opportunity for sure. Maybe my fold is too nitty. Maybe he overbets some Kings with weak kickers "for protection". But what can I do? Call Call Call over 3 streets and pray that my king holds up? Just wait for a better spot - this guy's sure to give you one.
      NL2 - TPTK on 3h board vs donk? Quote
      01-05-2018 , 11:22 AM
      I think in this spot I'm raisin something around .16 instead of .10 with 2 people limping in. And I also think here is a for sure fold or at least i'm folding most of the time since people will limp/call with hands that are suited and connected here but raising more preflop might get him to fold some of those weaker hands that are super strong on a flop like that
      NL2 - TPTK on 3h board vs donk? Quote

            
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