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03-07-2019 , 06:31 PM
Villian is 18/14 over 87hands
I think he had me, cant belive this type of player would run a big bluff here!?!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

UTG+1 ($2)
MP1 ($2.65)
Hero (MP2) ($2.63)
CO ($2.10)
Button ($2.05)
SB ($3.17)
BB ($2.16)
UTG ($1.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 4, 4
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, CO calls $0.08, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.19) 4, 9, 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.10, CO calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.39) A (2 players)
Hero bets $0.16, CO raises to $0.32, Hero folds

Total pot: $0.71 | Rake: $0.02

Spoiler:

CO didn't show
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03-07-2019 , 10:08 PM
Given pot odds you need 15% equity for a call to be breakeven.

Board : 9h4h2sAh
Equity
MP2 22.73% { 4s4c }
MP3 77.27% { KhQh }

Also there's a thing called implied odds, when you hit your full house on the river you will take all his chips. Calling this min raise turn is insanely profitable.

Not mentionning the fact that sometimes he raises Ax for value or bluffs, but we don't even care.
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03-07-2019 , 11:24 PM
Yeah, you can't fold to a min raise.
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03-07-2019 , 11:37 PM
It's a tough spot to be in. Turn play might be best to check when the heart comes, since you have to respect flush draws being in V's range after flop call. The small turn bet is inviting raises from all villain's range.

The only legitimate hand that hero bets turn with is a made flush. If you bet flop and bet turn, you are either representing a made flush (where you were bluffing the flop); otherwise you are now representing a scared medium strength hand which was strong on flop, but is unsure of what to do on turn.

Villain probably doesn't give you credit for betting a flush, unless you have a history of playing your draws fast on the flop.

Also, even though your hand is somewhat strong, since you are not betting large enough to prevent villain from drawing to a 4-card flush, it represents weakness, to where most villain's will raise with ATC.

I think the fold is a bit too nitty, although the call and evaluate river is not ideal either-- at least in this scenario you allow yourself to realize your equity.

Check/call turn line is better since you will see showdown cheaper this way, in the cases where you are beat.

Check/raise turn line can be preferable at some ratio to prevent getting drawn out on.
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03-08-2019 , 05:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xamlop
Given pot odds you need 15% equity for a call to be breakeven.

Board : 9h4h2sAh
Equity
MP222.73%{ 4s4c }
MP377.27%{ KhQh }

Also there's a thing called implied odds, when you hit your full house on the river you will take all his chips. Calling this min raise turn is insanely profitable.

Not mentionning the fact that sometimes he raises Ax for value or bluffs, but we don't even care.
Thanks a lot,but can you write how the heck you calculate those odds,it seems so complicated for me ,especally when you have to do it fast.

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03-08-2019 , 05:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BUSB0Y
It's a tough spot to be in. Turn play might be best to check when the heart comes, since you have to respect flush draws being in V's range after flop call. The small turn bet is inviting raises from all villain's range.



The only legitimate hand that hero bets turn with is a made flush. If you bet flop and bet turn, you are either representing a made flush (where you were bluffing the flop); otherwise you are now representing a scared medium strength hand which was strong on flop, but is unsure of what to do on turn.



Villain probably doesn't give you credit for betting a flush, unless you have a history of playing your draws fast on the flop.



Also, even though your hand is somewhat strong, since you are not betting large enough to prevent villain from drawing to a 4-card flush, it represents weakness, to where most villain's will raise with ATC.



I think the fold is a bit too nitty, although the call and evaluate river is not ideal either-- at least in this scenario you allow yourself to realize your equity.



Check/call turn line is better since you will see showdown cheaper this way, in the cases where you are beat.



Check/raise turn line can be preferable at some ratio to prevent getting drawn out on.
Thanks

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03-08-2019 , 02:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lavinin
Thanks a lot,but can you write how the heck you calculate those odds,it seems so complicated for me ,especally when you have to do it fast.

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There's 0.87 in the pot you have to call 0.16, that means you're getting 5.5 to 1, the odds you need are 1/5.5+1 = ~0.15 (=> 15% needed).

To calculate range/hand equity in any spot there are a bunch of softwares, I use Equilab.
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03-08-2019 , 08:20 PM
I call the minraise since you are getting such good odds.

His range includes 99, but it also includes 22 AK AQ.

I don't think an 18/14 often cold calls with two hearts PF.
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