Hi all. Just interested in getting some feedback on a recent hand that I thought might be interesting to talk about. How does the EV hold up here...

Villain in question, VPIP/PFR/F3B/AFR
18/12/0/1.5.

Hero is in MP with KcQs.

Stack sizes are both deep (200BB+)

Villain raises to 6c in CO
Hero 3bets to 18c in MP
Folds around. Villain calls.

FLOP:

Jh 10d 7c.

Villain raises to 20c
Hero re-raises to 69c.
CO tanks then calls.

TURN:

4d

CO checks
Villain checks

RIVER:
Jd

Villain bets 1/2 pot
Hero folds

My initial 3bet was aiming for a pot steal due to the player being passive. I've just sat on the table so no perceived image. I felt my equity was strong on the flop (maybe 55%, I'm not sure).

Was this a good spot to barrel the turn, or should I of folded/flatted the flop? I like how I got a free card at least.

Any input would be appreciated, I'd also like to hear about your thought process too if you wouldn't mind sharing.

Many thanks



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Apologies. Hero is on the BTN. Not MP


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Okay, My first thought is I've got an 18/12 getting into the pot. Secondly I'm looking at villian doesn't fold to 3bet at all, at least yet. I'm only 3-being this for value.

Why are we raising the flop? This villian doesn't have a wide range here to lead, probably looking at AJx, KJx, though I'm leaning towards QJx. Set woulda popped you right back.

Of your raising the flop, barrel the turn blank. By not doing so you give him a license to pop any blank river. The river is an easy fold.

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Dang phone, sorry.

But he led the flop when 3bet. Sometimes a fish will drink the flop. In my experience if they actually missed it, they ain't calling the raise. I'm calling flop and firing turn if he checks to me. Roughly 75 to 80 percent pot.

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I should of wrote it in the opening, apologies!

I'm raising the flop purely because he has a cbet of 100%. (Kind of odd combo stats to couple with this IMO) With the low aggression factor too so I really would like a fold. Would a call of been better here, or just fold? I'm thinking just flatting the flop would induce him to donk the turn anyways, and I get some equity from having two overs and open ended draw against JX with most likely a free turn card. (I did run this through an equity sim and turns out my equity is an underdog against his range on the flop).

After he just flatted, I got stuck on the turn and wasn't sure what to do haha

Wouldn't he just call a turn bet since it is essentially a nothing card though and is there any river cards you would be barrelling with besides an Ace or 9?

Thanks in advance.


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To be honest, at 2nl I think there must be some advice or there that says attack every flop no matter what.

I'll commonly flat flop and when they check turn I'm firing at least 3/4 pot. Your check behind opens you up to facing the river bet. So I'll take a cheaper showdown by firing turn. Most of the time these guys let their hands go on the turn after they check. If called I wouldn't be surprised to see Jxx

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Seems like a good line to take. That's helpful, thanks.


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Hi all. I'm struggling with the river. Should I call? Villain is unknown.
Thank you!

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 101 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BTN: 196 BB (VPIP: 17.28, PFR: 12.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 82)
SB: 87 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 6.73, 3Bet Preflop: 4.65, Hands: 105)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: 90 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG+1: 107 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
Hero (MP): 107 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 3 T 4
Hero bets 3.5 BB, CO calls 3.5 BB

Turn: (14.5 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (14.5 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero bets 7 BB, CO raises to 21 BB, fold

CO wins 27.5 BB

Pre flop and flop as played. Nothing wrong with a cbet. I'd check/fold the turn and river. Although 10 hands is a small sample size (20 is usually ok for a vpip indicator), there's a good chance he's using a wide range and your equity won't be great to commit any more money to the pot, in my opinion. I probably wouldn't of even wasted a cbet


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Hi all!
For the first look it seems that I played extremely silly. But pot odds and equity calculator (assuming that I'm playing against AA,KK,AK) say that I played with +EV. What do you think?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 202 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
SB: 48 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 66.67, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: 104 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 37.50, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 8)
UTG+1: 86.5 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 4)
MP: 94 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP+1: 57 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
MP+2: 100 BB (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 4.55, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
Hero (CO): 143 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 8

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to 20 BB, fold, Hero calls 10 BB

Flop: (44.5 BB, 2 players) T J 2
UTG bets 43 BB, Hero calls 43 BB

Turn: (130.5 BB, 2 players) 8
UTG bets 41 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 41 BB

River: (212.5 BB, 2 players) 9

UTG shows A A (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 78%, Flop 62%, Turn 68%)
Hero shows 6 8 (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 22%, Flop 38%, Turn 32%)
UTG wins 205 BB

Well, as the saying goes, you always win the most with the hands you shouldn't be playing lol

I think the 3bet on the flop was a little ambitious, and I prefer to just call here. You are in position with a speculative hand. Maybe try a 3bet if you have enough hands on the the UTG and they have a high fold to 3bet stat. As played though, flatting back was ok. It's narrowed down their range.

On the flop, it's a fold from me. You aren't getting the right odds to chase your flush. Doesn't like they are folding.


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Just as a side note also, if you want more views and more replies I'd create your own thread specific to your hand. People may think we are still talking about the hand I posted at the beginning.

I'm not complaining though, I don't mind offering my 2 cents on your hands.


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Oh, I mistakenly thought this is a common thread for reviewing different hands. I apologize! And thank you!

No worries! You haven't been the only one. Ill create another thread


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