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11-16-2017 , 11:58 PM

ImNotTiltling

enthusiast

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 79

Only have 80 hands but Villain is 34/22/2.3;
Cbet flop: 44;
Cbet turn: 100;
Cbet river: 50;
He's raising button 50%,
no stat on calling a 3bet;
Fold to cbet: 67%

On this table I'm at 65 hands playing 14/13/1.4

I'm getting 4.4:1 for the call (which I actually didn't even realize during play), but by the way he played the whole hand it just felt like I had to be beat. I realize that with those odds, I probably should be calling >90% of the time, but in the moment calling felt stupid.

Post-game analysis and I think I'm stupid for not calling.

What do YOU think?

THANK YOU!

Pacific, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37872153

BTN: $11.83 (118.3 bb)
Hero (SB): $24.80 (248 bb)
BB: $10.44 (104.4 bb)
CO: $10.02 (100.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

CO folds, BTN calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.35, BB folds, BTN calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.80) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, BTN calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.40) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, BTN raises to $1, Hero calls $0.70

River: ($3.40) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1, Hero folds

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Last edited by ImNotTiltling; 11-17-2017 at 12:01 AM. Reason: adding more stats on Villain

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11-17-2017 , 02:12 AM

pokerforumposter

adept

Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 856

odds are really good and his small bet is usually weakness. He could easily be betting a 10 like this. I'd go bigger OTT, maybe like 50c.

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11-17-2017 , 04:31 AM

SlavaGZ

grinder

Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 411

I think BET big PRE is best, flop too, TURN i have doubts if is a good bet, but your bet is very low too. I think You cant call for FOLD this river vs low size.mi bad player and bad english speaker

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11-17-2017 , 07:20 AM

IClickButtons

old hand

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,613

the whole hand is misplayed, call river

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11-17-2017 , 08:14 AM

BackdoorQuadsDraw

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Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 404

Your bet sizings are well out OP, I'd go watch and some stuff to do with that.

Flop should be like 70% pot or even higher given the drawy board, same again with turn and I'd probably just shove river. AP this is truly a terrible fold, you need to be right less than then 20% of the time here to call - again if you familiarise yourself with pot odds and bet sizing this should become clearer.

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11-17-2017 , 11:26 AM

JamesBJames

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,791

Larger PF ($0.45), larger OTF against a fish (2/3 PSB - 3/4 PSB IMO), way larger OTT (2/3 PSB probably okay here too), don't fold river as played.

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11-17-2017 , 02:44 PM

2blackaces

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Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 212

Just be bigger on every street and then folding to aggression might be reasonable but AP it's a call

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11-17-2017 , 03:31 PM

tomj

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 4,543

Forget all the stats and what not, when someone limps the button they are being labelled whale until strong evidence to the contrary. So punish him with a meaty raise and pot the flop. Turn card is fine for another bet.

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11-17-2017 , 07:55 PM

KereDn

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 395

Because you took weird sizings on flop and turn, river should be a call

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11-24-2017 , 04:07 PM

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ImNotTiltling

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Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 79

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Originally Posted by 2blackaces

Just be bigger on every street and then folding to aggression might be reasonable but AP it's a call

Agreed. I wish I could remember why i but so small. Maybe i was thinking trap. I've been getting AA a crazy number of times lately and can't get paid off even when I'm playing loose. It might have just been a frustration mistake.

Thanks everyone for the feedback.

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11-25-2017 , 07:12 AM

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tomj

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Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 4,543

Best to win a small pot than let JQ draw correctly and suck out. Most of the time with AA we are winning blinds or blinds +3bb preflop.

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11-26-2017 , 06:26 PM

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Maverick93

adept

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 733

You're beaten here pretty often, but given the odds you can't really fold.

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11-26-2017 , 08:02 PM

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uppie_

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,673

I would never play a hand like this, hard part is turn bet looks super weak. Question is does villain seems aggressive so would think he capable of bluffing. generally when facing aggression at this stakes they have it. I just don't know if that small bet is inducing the bluff. For the smallish bet I call and pay it off though

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11-26-2017 , 08:04 PM

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pokethemaths

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 17

+1 to bigger sizings. And to button open limp == whale. This is beautiful info and we should exploit with big sizings, folding to aggression

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