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03-17-2018 , 09:35 AM
So on the flop i put him on a really wide range thats why i check raise.
When he calls I narrow him on 12 combos of jk 12 of qj 12 aj and at a frequency on TJ and 3 comb of TT and JJ but he doesnt reraise me so i think im fine.
On the turn turning the heart i guess i need to barrell again to fold him the qj and kj .
RIVER considering i have the 8 blocker and the only qk that he can have is qkh and he cant really call me down with aj or kj and he didnt show strength shove is fine right?? THOUGHTS?? tyty

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
SB: 104.5 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 113.7 BB (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
MP: 57.9 BB
CO: 92.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 A

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) T 6 J
Hero checks, CO bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 9.1 BB, CO calls 6.1 BB

Turn: (24.7 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 17.5 BB, CO calls 17.5 BB

River: (59.7 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 70.4 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 57 BB
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03-17-2018 , 02:15 PM
The whole hand post-flop seems wreckless to me. I'd limit your flop c/r bluffs to hands where you have more equity as a good way of limiting them. If you're c/r this hand then you're probably raising too often.
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03-18-2018 , 01:04 AM
Your thought process is a bit off here. You can't just think about villain's range when you're trying a move like this, you have to think about your perceived range too.

First, a JTx flop isn't a good flop to x/r because the raiser has the range advantage on that flop. Even if he has a relatively wide range, a good portion of that range will connect with JTx in some way. Your BB defending hand, however, is more likely to include smaller pairs and suited connectors and won't include hands like TT-AA/AJ+ because you likely would have 3b those pre. So when you x/r that flop, what hands are you trying to represent?

Second, when you try a flop x/r and get called, you should generally only barrel turn cards that strengthen your perceived range or give you more equity. Following on my question at the end of the above comment, how does the 4h fit in with what you're trying to represent on the flop? If villain wasn't scared enough of your x/r to fold the flop, why would he fold to a blank turn card?

Finally you face a decision whether to triple barrel on the river. The only thing scary about that card from villain's perspective is that it completes the KQ straight, which is of course smack in his range as much if not more than it is in your range. Otherwise, why would villain be tempted to fold that river card after calling your flop x/r and turn barrel? You say he can't call down with AJ/KJ, but why not? Is your bluff telling a believable story?
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03-19-2018 , 02:53 AM
Egads
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03-19-2018 , 12:07 PM
Maybe better to have something like AT for a flop raise? Just feels like you don't have enough to warrant a bigger raise here. Your raising range is going to be a little wider on this moderately-connected board. Turns likely fold out a lot of draws so I suppose the river bomb makes some sense to me. You're only really repping JT, TT,JJ or 66, meaning your river value range is pretty small.
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03-22-2018 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by astour194
So on the flop i put him on a really wide range thats why i check raise.
When he calls I narrow him on 12 combos of jk 12 of qj 12 aj and at a frequency on TJ and 3 comb of TT and JJ but he doesnt reraise me so i think im fine.
On the turn turning the heart i guess i need to barrell again to fold him the qj and kj .
RIVER considering i have the 8 blocker and the only qk that he can have is qkh and he cant really call me down with aj or kj and he didnt show strength shove is fine right?? THOUGHTS?? tyty

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
SB: 104.5 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 113.7 BB (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
MP: 57.9 BB
CO: 92.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 A

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) T 6 J
Hero checks, CO bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 9.1 BB, CO calls 6.1 BB

Turn: (24.7 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 17.5 BB, CO calls 17.5 BB

River: (59.7 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 70.4 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 57 BB

Against someone you know more about, I like it, but I'd bet bigger on the turn so that you don't have to overshove the river AND so that you make more when he folds river.

Against an unknown, I don't think you have the fold equity to justify continuing on the turn.
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03-22-2018 , 07:28 PM
wp pre

Last edited by bronxsystem; 03-22-2018 at 07:38 PM.
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