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06-15-2019 , 03:28 PM

jimmyb23

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Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem $1(BB)
SB ($84.5) [VPIP: 45.5% | PFR: 13.6% | AGG: 38.5% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 23]
BB ($108.79) [VPIP: 43.8% | PFR: 31.3% | AGG: 60% | 3-Bet: 16.7% | Hands: 16]
UTG ($77.5) [VPIP: 26.9% | PFR: 15.4% | AGG: 30% | 3-Bet: 9.1% | Hands: 26]
EP ($331.41) [VPIP: 20.7% | PFR: 3.4% | AGG: 12.5% | 3-Bet: 7.7% | Hands: 29]
MP ($49.8) [VPIP: 25% | PFR: 17.9% | AGG: 28.6% | 3-Bet: 11.1% | Hands: 28]
HJ ($105.01) [VPIP: 13.8% | PFR: 10.3% | AGG: 0% | 3-Bet: 9.1% | Hands: 29]
CO ($101.75) [VPIP: 10.3% | PFR: 3.4% | AGG: 57.1% | 3-Bet: 0% | Hands: 29]
HERO ($97.5) [VPIP: 26.7% | PFR: 15% | AGG: 24.9% | 3-Bet: 5% | Hands: 1795]

Dealt to Hero: Q

UTG Calls $1, EP Folds, MP Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Calls $1, SB Raises To $2, BB Calls $1, UTG Calls $1, HERO Calls $1

Hero SPR on Flop: [9.44 effective]
Flop ($8.0): 4

SB Checks, BB Bets $6 (Rem. Stack: 100.79), UTG Folds, HERO Calls $6 (Rem. Stack: 89.5), SB Folds

Turn ($20.0): 4

BB Bets $12 (Rem. Stack: 88.79), HERO Calls $12 (Rem. Stack: 77.5)

River ($44.0): 4

BB Checks, HERO Bets $41.80 (Rem. Stack: 35.7), BB Folds

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06-15-2019 , 04:16 PM

ionutd

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fold pf and flop, you have a junk hand
there are a lot of mistakes in your preflop game
take a look at this free app for a good idea of what profitable preflop play looks like
https://www.pokersnowie.com/pftapp/index.html

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06-15-2019 , 04:51 PM

jimmyb23

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Thanks looking at it right now

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06-15-2019 , 04:56 PM

ionutd

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you can call a bit more if there are poor players behind but stuff like Q9o is just trash
rake is high, it's impossible to make money with crap offsuit hands

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06-15-2019 , 05:39 PM

jimmyb23

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Originally Posted by ionutd

you can call a bit more if there are poor players behind but stuff like Q9o is just trash
rake is high, it's impossible to make money with crap offsuit hands

The PF advisor says I should be calling with a lot of suited connectors and suited one gappers in the BB from raises UTG. Is this accurate? Even with cards as low as 53s and 54s?

If so why is this the case?

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06-15-2019 , 05:48 PM

shark6

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Fold PF. Your hand could easily be dominated, and you could get raised higher behind and then not even get to see a flop.

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06-15-2019 , 06:01 PM

ionutd

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Originally Posted by jimmyb23

you're getting a better price for your call in the bb and you're last to act, guaranteeing a hu pot

these will be marginal tho, prob sligthly -ev with the higher rake you pay on ignition

the ranges are accurate in a nash equilibrium setting, i.e. the bot played billions of hands against itself and it came to the conclusion that bb will make a fraction of a big blind vs utg in the long run here

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06-15-2019 , 06:14 PM

jimmyb23

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I'm very surprised with this PF Advisor. Hands like QJo are not good to call against an UTG raise in the Btn. Although I'm playing at 9 handed tables, does it translate okay?

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06-15-2019 , 06:18 PM

ionutd

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it would be more of a fold if utg were to open in 9max

surprised as you might be, these are by far the best sets of ranges you can get without spending hundreds of dollars on ranges calculated by solvers.

the reality is you are no doubt making a ton of costly mistakes preflop

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06-15-2019 , 09:16 PM

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Havick

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Originally Posted by jimmyb23

I'm very surprised with this PF Advisor. Hands like QJo are not good to call against an UTG raise in the Btn. Although I'm playing at 9 handed tables, does it translate okay?

1) You could rfi OJo otb. Once the UTG raises it changes the value of your holding, often dramatically. Think of what a proper UTG open range consists of and then think about how well QJo would fare against that range.

2) If your hand is weak enough to limp, it's good enough to fold.

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06-16-2019 , 04:06 PM

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WorldzMine

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Originally Posted by jimmyb23

I'm very surprised with this PF Advisor. Hands like QJo are not good to call against an UTG raise in the Btn. Although I'm playing at 9 handed tables, does it translate okay?

Are you wealthy? It really sounds like you have extremely basic knowledge of solid preflop ranges which is the first thing that should be learned. In my opinion you should be playing 5NL not 100NL if you don't have tens of thousands of dollars to lose while you learn the basics of the game.

As to the actual question, QJo is a snap fold vs a raise from any position unless you are specifically in the bb and the open raise comes from LP and/or is really small (like a minraise from EP).

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06-17-2019 , 02:15 AM

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fishfood69er

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i always though solvers would end the game but it couldnt be further from the truth.

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