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Old 11-16-2007, 05:22 PM   #251
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Re: M2TR shortstacker illuminati thread

that's the thing

very few players are capable of beating high stakes at fullstack

sure, we all shoot for it and we'd all love to beat it, but most of us cannot

grinding out a very healthy income isn't a crappy job. It might seem so relative to you AceCR9, but it isn't.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:38 PM   #252
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Re: M2TR shortstacker illuminati thread

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that's the thing

very few players are capable of beating high stakes at fullstack

sure, we all shoot for it and we'd all love to beat it, but most of us cannot

wrong. unless you have tilt issues, EVERYONE is capable of beating it(eventually). of course some might get there quickly, other might take a few years, and some might get there, have to move down, and try it again.

you have to have the desire to do it, and do w/e it takes(studying, playing, coaching, etc) to get there. Often it includes sacrificing time/money for things which in the long run will be more +ev, but do not seem so @ this time.

but having the attitude that you "cannot beat it" is what will keep you(and others who think the same thing) from ever coming close.

wasn't knocking the $$ amount(as even 75k/yr is a good income in most places, and is more than my parents make, combined), only the lack of desire to achieve more. also to be a successful high stakes player, you ideally should be able to play HU/6m/FR , even if you specialize/prefer one over the other two.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:44 PM   #253
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:44 PM   #254
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Re: M2TR shortstacker illuminati thread

God. The last 5 posts are just idiotic.

"Everyone can beat high stakes"

What planet are you on? I doubt 90% of SSNL winnars could show a profit at 5/10+ choo chooing with an intrinsic advantage. Let alone ever reach the point of being to beat it at deep stack.

Also, I'll enlighten you why there are many winning Choo Choo at HSNL. "IT IS [censored] HARD" If it was so ******edly easy then everyone would do it.

Its amazing how most of the MSNL "elite" live inside some sort of stupid zone where they can't understand math.
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:51 PM   #255
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God. The last 5 posts are just idiotic
After reading your posts in this thread I don't think you'd like any post but your own.
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God. The last 5 posts are just idiotic.

"Everyone can beat high stakes"

What planet are you on? I doubt 90% of SSNL winnars could show a profit at 5/10+ choo chooing with an intrinsic advantage. Let alone ever reach the point of being to beat it at deep stack.

Also, I'll enlighten you why there are many winning Choo Choo at HSNL. "IT IS [censored] HARD" If it was so ******edly easy then everyone would do it.

Its amazing how most of the MSNL "elite" live inside some sort of stupid zone where they can't understand math.
lets save some time, HU 4 rollz?

want to compare win rates for last 100k hands?

no? then go back into your [censored] hole
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:15 PM   #257
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Re: M2TR shortstacker illuminati thread

bah....this thread is getting bogged down in e-peen stuff again

time to shift...let's look at some hands verse ranges
TT+, AK
3.500%

AA 82.942%
KK 65.971%
QQ 52.371%
JJ 43.229%
TT 34.052%
99 31.189%
88 31.337%
77 31.409%
66 31.497%
55 31.368%
44 30.935%
33 30.421%
22 29.881%
AKS 43.375%
AQS 34.362%
AJS 32.240%
ATS 30.246%
A9S 29.529%
A8S 29.803%
A7S 29.965%
A6S 29.703%
A5S 31.083%
A4S 30.746%
A3S 30.352%
A2S 29.957%
AKO 40.392%
AQO 30.635%
AJO 28.398%
ATO 26.296%
A9O 25.577%
A8O 25.878%
A7O 26.058%
A6O 25.776%
A5O 27.266%
A4O 26.899%
A3O 26.469%
A2O 26.036%
KQS 32.159%
KJS 29.988%
KTS 27.944%
K9S 26.891%
K8S 26.498%
K7S 26.772%
K6S 26.807%
K5S 26.671%
K4S 26.321%
K3S 25.912%
K2S 25.502%
KQO 28.342%
KJO 26.054%
KTO 23.900%
K9O 22.806%
K8O 22.399%
K7O 22.700%
K6O 22.741%
K5O 22.599%
K4O 22.218%
K3O 21.774%
K2O 21.326%
QJS 31.859%
QTS 30.022%
Q9S 28.998%
Q8S 28.259%
Q7S 27.366%
Q6S 27.691%
Q5S 27.580%
Q4S 27.255%
Q3S 26.878%
Q2S 26.498%
QJO 28.143%
QTO 26.208%
Q9O 25.155%
Q8O 24.374%
Q7O 23.424%
Q6O 23.776%
Q5O 23.660%
Q4O 23.307%
Q3O 22.896%
Q2O 22.480%
JTS 29.078%
J9S 28.135%
J8S 27.434%
J7S 26.543%
J6S 25.560%
J5S 25.733%
J4S 25.403%
J3S 25.020%
J2S 24.634%
JTO 25.274%
J9O 24.299%
J8O 23.557%
J7O 22.610%
J6O 21.563%
J5O 21.754%
J4O 21.395%
J3O 20.978%
J2O 20.556%
T9S 27.421%
T8S 26.765%
T7S 25.912%
T6S 24.932%
T5S 23.668%
T4S 23.653%
T3S 23.264%
T2S 22.873%
T9O 23.602%
T8O 22.905%
T7O 21.998%
T6O 20.954%
T5O 19.609%
T4O 19.591%
T3O 19.168%
T2O 18.740%
98S 26.986%
97S 26.741%
96S 25.900%
95S 24.755%
94S 23.241%
93S 23.225%
92S 22.832%
98O 23.186%
97O 22.934%
96O 22.041%
95O 20.827%
94O 19.207%
93O 19.187%
87S 28.064%
76S 28.551%
65S 28.744%
54S 28.571%
43S 26.708%
32S 24.787%
87O 24.344%
76O 24.867%
65O 25.075%
54O 24.888%
43O 22.892%
32O 20.832%
86S 27.265%
75S 27.456%
64S 27.280%
53S 27.047%
42S 25.182%
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Re: M2TR shortstacker illuminati thread

88+, AQ+
5.600%

AA 83.705%
KK 70.184%
QQ 60.151%
JJ 52.883%
TT 47.505%
99 41.330%
88 35.849%
77 34.142%
66 34.280%
55 34.182%
44 33.741%
33 33.241%
22 32.712%
AKS 50.770%
AQS 39.829%
AJS 34.809%
ATS 33.655%
A9S 31.497%
A8S 30.424%
A7S 30.558%
A6S 30.383%
A5S 31.762%
A4S 31.396%
A3S 31.017%
A2S 30.652%
AKO 48.250%
AQO 36.559%
AJO 31.124%
ATO 29.913%
A9O 27.599%
A8O 26.472%
A7O 26.656%
A6O 26.470%
A5O 27.960%
A4O 27.563%
A3O 27.149%
A2O 26.749%
KQS 34.779%
KJS 35.908%
KTS 34.823%
K9S 32.234%
K8S 30.320%
K7S 30.608%
K6S 30.752%
K5S 30.631%
K4S 30.275%
K3S 29.904%
K2S 29.545%
KQO 31.137%
KJO 32.326%
KTO 31.187%
K9O 28.419%
K8O 26.393%
K7O 26.737%
K6O 26.895%
K5O 26.771%
K4O 26.384%
K3O 25.980%
K2O 25.587%
QJS 34.807%
QTS 33.699%
Q9S 31.104%
Q8S 29.191%
Q7S 28.377%
Q6S 28.705%
Q5S 28.584%
Q4S 28.224%
Q3S 27.849%
Q2S 27.486%
QJO 31.217%
QTO 30.053%
Q9O 27.279%
Q8O 25.253%
Q7O 24.416%
Q6O 24.772%
Q5O 24.648%
Q4O 24.258%
Q3O 23.850%
Q2O 23.453%
JTS 35.123%
J9S 32.734%
J8S 30.691%
J7S 29.804%
J6S 28.947%
J5S 29.115%
J4S 28.771%
J3S 28.414%
J2S 28.066%
JTO 31.623%
J9O 29.084%
J8O 26.915%
J7O 25.997%
J6O 25.087%
J5O 25.275%
J4O 24.902%
J3O 24.512%
J2O 24.132%
T9S 32.705%
T8S 30.663%
T7S 29.778%
T6S 28.923%
T5S 27.812%
T4S 27.759%
T3S 27.398%
T2S 27.047%
T9O 29.096%
T8O 26.928%
T7O 26.009%
T6O 25.100%
T5O 23.922%
T4O 23.863%
T3O 23.469%
T2O 23.085%
98S 30.190%
97S 29.622%
96S 28.868%
95S 27.759%
94S 26.350%
93S 26.297%
92S 25.943%
98O 26.437%
97O 25.856%
96O 25.055%
95O 23.879%
94O 22.371%
93O 22.311%
87S 29.565%
76S 29.612%
65S 30.018%
54S 30.021%
43S 28.257%
32S 26.428%
87O 25.833%
76O 25.928%
65O 26.366%
54O 26.368%
43O 24.478%
32O 22.515%
86S 28.865%
75S 28.648%
64S 28.721%
53S 28.632%
42S 26.796%
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Re: M2TR shortstacker illuminati thread

22+, AQ+
8.300%

AA 82.688%
KK 74.171%
QQ 67.900%
JJ 62.563%
TT 59.069%
99 55.046%
88 51.485%
77 47.819%
66 44.300%
55 40.679%
44 36.707%
33 32.764%
22 28.874%
AKS 49.898%
AQS 43.323%
AJS 40.175%
ATS 39.528%
A9S 37.675%
A8S 37.029%
A7S 36.154%
A6S 35.032%
A5S 35.465%
A4S 34.282%
A3S 33.079%
A2S 31.844%
AKO 47.338%
AQO 40.314%
AJO 36.909%
ATO 36.234%
A9O 34.243%
A8O 33.568%
A7O 32.644%
A6O 31.451%
A5O 31.932%
A4O 30.688%
A3O 29.381%
A2O 28.060%
KQS 40.444%
KJS 41.035%
KTS 40.412%
K9S 38.269%
K8S 36.669%
K7S 36.051%
K6S 35.245%
K5S 34.301%
K4S 33.176%
K3S 32.034%
K2S 30.875%
KQO 37.225%
KJO 37.846%
KTO 37.197%
K9O 34.901%
K8O 33.200%
K7O 32.551%
K6O 31.700%
K5O 30.701%
K4O 29.499%
K3O 28.277%
K2O 27.037%
QJS 40.735%
QTS 40.094%
Q9S 37.947%
Q8S 36.346%
Q7S 34.533%
Q6S 33.957%
Q5S 33.015%
Q4S 31.889%
Q3S 30.746%
Q2S 29.586%
QJO 37.575%
QTO 36.907%
Q9O 34.606%
Q8O 32.904%
Q7O 30.972%
Q6O 30.370%
Q5O 29.373%
Q4O 28.170%
Q3O 26.947%
Q2O 25.706%
JTS 41.132%
J9S 39.098%
J8S 37.398%
J7S 35.630%
J6S 33.880%
J5S 33.261%
J4S 32.177%
J3S 31.076%
J2S 29.959%
JTO 38.050%
J9O 35.881%
J8O 34.071%
J7O 32.190%
J6O 30.326%
J5O 29.679%
J4O 28.520%
J3O 27.343%
J2O 26.147%
T9S 39.408%
T8S 37.705%
T7S 35.936%
T6S 34.185%
T5S 32.311%
T4S 31.512%
T3S 30.410%
T2S 29.292%
T9O 36.243%
T8O 34.431%
T7O 32.549%
T6O 30.684%
T5O 28.693%
T4O 27.842%
T3O 26.664%
T2O 25.467%
98S 37.574%
97S 36.012%
96S 34.310%
95S 32.433%
94S 30.343%
93S 29.529%
92S 28.407%
98O 34.299%
97O 32.639%
96O 30.828%
95O 28.834%
94O 26.603%
93O 25.735%
87S 36.153%
76S 34.563%
65S 32.919%
54S 31.178%
43S 27.751%
32S 24.310%
87O 32.816%
76O 31.146%
65O 29.422%
54O 27.591%
43O 23.954%
32O 20.303%
86S 34.465%
75S 32.700%
64S 30.835%
53S 29.046%
42S 25.589%
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77+, AT+, KQ
9.700%

AA 85.152%
KK 72.278%
QQ 64.980%
JJ 58.286%
TT 53.081%
99 48.526%
88 45.260%
77 41.905%
66 40.680%
55 40.455%
44 39.997%
33 39.464%
22 38.871%
AKS 59.090%
AQS 52.768%
AJS 45.574%
ATS 40.029%
A9S 36.539%
A8S 35.906%
A7S 35.263%
A6S 35.015%
A5S 36.269%
A4S 35.978%
A3S 35.636%
A2S 35.285%
AKO 57.100%
AQO 50.334%
AJO 42.608%
ATO 36.679%
A9O 32.886%
A8O 32.218%
A7O 31.539%
A6O 31.297%
A5O 32.653%
A4O 32.337%
A3O 31.964%
A2O 31.580%
KQS 39.439%
KJS 36.288%
KTS 35.292%
K9S 34.641%
K8S 33.231%
K7S 32.863%
K6S 32.973%
K5S 32.855%
K4S 32.543%
K3S 32.174%
K2S 31.794%
KQO 36.082%
KJO 32.682%
KTO 31.630%
K9O 30.913%
K8O 29.414%
K7O 29.030%
K6O 29.169%
K5O 29.049%
K4O 28.710%
K3O 28.309%
K2O 27.894%
QJS 36.027%
QTS 35.042%
Q9S 34.366%
Q8S 32.839%
Q7S 31.325%
Q6S 31.676%
Q5S 31.556%
Q4S 31.239%
Q3S 30.865%
Q2S 30.480%
QJO 32.443%
QTO 31.402%
Q9O 30.654%
Q8O 29.029%
Q7O 27.421%
Q6O 27.819%
Q5O 27.697%
Q4O 27.353%
Q3O 26.947%
Q2O 26.527%
JTS 35.860%
J9S 35.095%
J8S 33.643%
J7S 32.011%
J6S 31.117%
J5S 31.252%
J4S 30.942%
J3S 30.578%
J2S 30.203%
JTO 32.325%
J9O 31.486%
J8O 29.947%
J7O 28.212%
J6O 27.277%
J5O 27.429%
J4O 27.094%
J3O 26.697%
J2O 26.288%
T9S 35.216%
T8S 33.764%
T7S 32.108%
T6S 31.172%
T5S 30.059%
T4S 30.007%
T3S 29.640%
T2S 29.263%
T9O 31.650%
T8O 30.111%
T7O 28.351%
T6O 27.371%
T5O 26.189%
T4O 26.132%
T3O 25.733%
T2O 25.322%
98S 34.866%
97S 33.463%
96S 32.591%
95S 31.498%
94S 30.168%
93S 30.120%
92S 29.752%
98O 31.286%
97O 29.802%
96O 28.890%
95O 27.732%
94O 26.308%
93O 26.253%
87S 33.801%
76S 33.411%
65S 33.340%
54S 33.395%
43S 31.759%
32S 30.013%
87O 30.181%
76O 29.801%
65O 29.757%
54O 29.817%
43O 28.063%
32O 26.189%
86S 33.046%
75S 32.400%
64S 32.126%
53S 32.081%
42S 30.389%
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66+,ATo+,A9s+, KT+, Qjs
13.100%

AA 84.932%
KK 74.803%
QQ 67.097%
JJ 61.284%
TT 55.595%
99 51.174%
88 48.430%
77 45.918%
66 43.469%
55 42.276%
44 41.810%
33 41.278%
22 40.683%
AKS 61.636%
AQS 55.770%
AJS 51.191%
ATS 46.676%
A9S 42.601%
A8S 41.706%
A7S 41.240%
A6S 40.531%
A5S 41.417%
A4S 41.184%
A3S 40.912%
A2S 40.616%
AKO 59.810%
AQO 53.476%
AJO 48.585%
ATO 43.739%
A9O 39.269%
A8O 38.356%
A7O 37.864%
A6O 37.106%
A5O 38.084%
A4O 37.830%
A3O 37.532%
A2O 37.207%
KQS 46.306%
KJS 41.746%
KTS 37.383%
K9S 35.113%
K8S 34.138%
K7S 33.902%
K6S 33.500%
K5S 33.397%
K4S 33.100%
K3S 32.743%
K2S 32.367%
KQO 43.433%
KJO 38.561%
KTO 33.874%
K9O 31.381%
K8O 30.357%
K7O 30.113%
K6O 29.688%
K5O 29.599%
K4O 29.277%
K3O 28.888%
K2O 28.478%
QJS 37.357%
QTS 35.953%
Q9S 35.687%
Q8S 34.532%
Q7S 33.202%
Q6S 33.047%
Q5S 32.971%
Q4S 32.679%
Q3S 32.322%
Q2S 31.946%
QJO 33.773%
QTO 32.369%
Q9O 32.045%
Q8O 30.831%
Q7O 29.418%
Q6O 29.256%
Q5O 29.195%
Q4O 28.878%
Q3O 28.490%
Q2O 28.080%
JTS 35.920%
J9S 35.690%
J8S 34.528%
J7S 33.157%
J6S 31.740%
J5S 31.910%
J4S 31.616%
J3S 31.257%
J2S 30.879%
JTO 32.375%
J9O 32.085%
J8O 30.862%
J7O 29.406%
J6O 27.896%
J5O 28.099%
J4O 27.780%
J3O 27.390%
J2O 26.978%
T9S 35.882%
T8S 34.717%
T7S 33.341%
T6S 31.865%
T5S 30.791%
T4S 30.736%
T3S 30.377%
T2S 30.000%
T9O 32.344%
T8O 31.117%
T7O 29.657%
T6O 28.086%
T5O 26.958%
T4O 26.898%
T3O 26.508%
T2O 26.097%
98S 36.209%
97S 34.991%
96S 33.619%
95S 32.521%
94S 31.219%
93S 31.172%
92S 30.808%
98O 32.701%
97O 31.410%
96O 29.954%
95O 28.801%
94O 27.408%
93O 27.355%
87S 35.659%
76S 34.947%
65S 34.531%
54S 34.336%
43S 32.766%
32S 31.081%
87O 32.145%
76O 31.409%
65O 30.991%
54O 30.805%
43O 29.123%
32O 27.316%
86S 34.396%
75S 33.908%
64S 33.322%
53S 33.064%
42S 31.443%
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22+, A2s+, Kts+, T9s+, AT+, KQ
15.800%

AA 84.085%
KK 73.703%
QQ 69.029%
JJ 64.513%
TT 60.477%
99 56.572%
88 54.089%
77 51.694%
66 49.410%
55 47.079%
44 44.468%
33 41.827%
22 39.178%
AKS 59.553%
AQS 55.697%
AJS 51.536%
ATS 47.968%
A9S 44.501%
A8S 43.216%
A7S 42.034%
A6S 40.765%
A5S 41.003%
A4S 40.057%
A3S 39.227%
A2S 38.372%
AKO 57.549%
AQO 53.409%
AJO 48.983%
ATO 45.177%
A9O 41.370%
A8O 39.980%
A7O 38.712%
A6O 37.346%
A5O 37.618%
A4O 36.599%
A3O 35.704%
A2O 34.782%
KQS 44.270%
KJS 42.093%
KTS 40.813%
K9S 39.188%
K8S 37.797%
K7S 37.530%
K6S 37.069%
K5S 36.384%
K4S 35.625%
K3S 34.828%
K2S 34.019%
KQO 41.298%
KJO 38.928%
KTO 37.560%
K9O 35.837%
K8O 34.348%
K7O 34.071%
K6O 33.584%
K5O 32.866%
K4O 32.055%
K3O 31.202%
K2O 30.335%
QJS 41.214%
QTS 40.284%
Q9S 39.074%
Q8S 37.624%
Q7S 36.233%
Q6S 36.012%
Q5S 35.336%
Q4S 34.574%
Q3S 33.773%
Q2S 32.959%
QJO 38.013%
QTO 37.096%
Q9O 35.776%
Q8O 34.222%
Q7O 32.747%
Q6O 32.519%
Q5O 31.809%
Q4O 30.996%
Q3O 30.139%
Q2O 29.267%
JTS 40.620%
J9S 39.208%
J8S 37.808%
J7S 36.365%
J6S 34.949%
J5S 34.536%
J4S 33.780%
J3S 32.981%
J2S 32.169%
JTO 37.420%
J9O 35.950%
J8O 34.449%
J7O 32.918%
J6O 31.413%
J5O 30.986%
J4O 30.179%
J3O 29.324%
J2O 28.454%
T9S 39.353%
T8S 37.783%
T7S 36.352%
T6S 34.909%
T5S 33.281%
T4S 32.780%
T3S 31.979%
T2S 31.161%
T9O 36.084%
T8O 34.474%
T7O 32.955%
T6O 31.420%
T5O 29.696%
T4O 29.164%
T3O 28.307%
T2O 27.431%
98S 38.613%
97S 37.321%
96S 35.959%
95S 34.329%
94S 32.587%
93S 32.092%
92S 31.291%
98O 35.371%
97O 34.004%
96O 32.558%
95O 30.833%
94O 28.976%
93O 28.450%
87S 37.878%
76S 37.071%
65S 36.079%
54S 35.033%
43S 32.423%
32S 29.736%
87O 34.622%
76O 33.780%
65O 32.743%
54O 31.646%
43O 28.877%
32O 26.023%
86S 36.597%
75S 35.509%
64S 34.388%
53S 33.276%
42S 30.618%
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66+, BW, A8+, K9
19.800%

AA 85.173%
KK 76.945%
QQ 70.444%
JJ 64.862%
TT 59.333%
99 53.979%
88 50.709%
77 48.543%
66 46.729%
55 45.657%
44 45.101%
33 44.526%
22 43.910%
AKS 64.464%
AQS 60.535%
AJS 57.292%
ATS 54.147%
A9S 49.061%
A8S 46.285%
A7S 45.173%
A6S 44.633%
A5S 45.393%
A4S 45.183%
A3S 44.962%
A2S 44.725%
AKO 62.762%
AQO 58.532%
AJO 55.058%
ATO 51.688%
A9O 46.224%
A8O 43.221%
A7O 42.007%
A6O 41.426%
A5O 42.260%
A4O 42.030%
A3O 41.787%
A2O 41.525%
KQS 51.696%
KJS 48.494%
KTS 45.447%
K9S 40.746%
K8S 38.582%
K7S 38.958%
K6S 38.707%
K5S 38.560%
K4S 38.308%
K3S 38.025%
K2S 37.721%
KQO 49.140%
KJO 45.709%
KTO 42.443%
K9O 37.380%
K8O 35.044%
K7O 35.437%
K6O 35.169%
K5O 35.026%
K4O 34.751%
K3O 34.442%
K2O 34.110%
QJS 43.181%
QTS 40.275%
Q9S 37.064%
Q8S 36.224%
Q7S 35.648%
Q6S 35.641%
Q5S 35.572%
Q4S 35.296%
Q3S 34.980%
Q2S 34.640%
QJO 40.062%
QTO 36.946%
Q9O 33.472%
Q8O 32.568%
Q7O 31.950%
Q6O 31.943%
Q5O 31.884%
Q4O 31.584%
Q3O 31.239%
Q2O 30.867%
JTS 38.139%
J9S 35.855%
J8S 35.063%
J7S 34.463%
J6S 33.312%
J5S 33.506%
J4S 33.226%
J3S 32.889%
J2S 32.527%
JTO 34.688%
J9O 32.216%
J8O 31.361%
J7O 30.716%
J6O 29.489%
J5O 29.713%
J4O 29.408%
J3O 29.042%
J2O 28.647%
T9S 35.996%
T8S 35.231%
T7S 34.604%
T6S 33.369%
T5S 32.351%
T4S 32.295%
T3S 31.956%
T2S 31.592%
T9O 32.396%
T8O 31.568%
T7O 30.892%
T6O 29.576%
T5O 28.504%
T4O 28.441%
T3O 28.073%
T2O 27.676%
98S 36.127%
97S 35.615%
96S 34.387%
95S 33.285%
94S 31.970%
93S 31.910%
92S 31.555%
98O 32.545%
97O 31.998%
96O 30.694%
95O 29.532%
94O 28.122%
93O 28.056%
87S 36.602%
76S 36.563%
65S 36.340%
54S 36.246%
43S 34.695%
32S 33.062%
87O 33.060%
76O 33.033%
65O 32.814%
54O 32.731%
43O 31.068%
32O 29.315%
86S 35.469%
75S 35.567%
64S 35.184%
53S 34.995%
42S 33.399%
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22+,BW,A2+,K9
28.800%

AA 85.950%
KK 75.295%
QQ 71.128%
JJ 67.493%
TT 63.884%
99 59.922%
88 57.560%
77 55.559%
66 53.647%
55 51.764%
44 49.528%
33 47.259%
22 44.947%
AKS 65.401%
AQS 62.583%
AJS 60.163%
ATS 57.739%
A9S 53.449%
A8S 50.943%
A7S 48.942%
A6S 47.085%
A5S 46.860%
A4S 45.835%
A3S 45.158%
A2S 44.455%
AKO 63.738%
AQO 60.712%
AJO 58.125%
ATO 55.533%
A9O 50.927%
A8O 48.227%
A7O 46.081%
A6O 44.086%
A5O 43.860%
A4O 42.758%
A3O 42.031%
A2O 41.274%
KQS 49.673%
KJS 47.698%
KTS 45.812%
K9S 42.210%
K8S 40.409%
K7S 40.172%
K6S 39.818%
K5S 39.196%
K4S 38.568%
K3S 37.924%
K2S 37.261%
KQO 46.938%
KJO 44.824%
KTO 42.804%
K9O 38.931%
K8O 36.992%
K7O 36.740%
K6O 36.360%
K5O 35.704%
K4O 35.027%
K3O 34.333%
K2O 33.616%
QJS 44.663%
QTS 42.852%
Q9S 40.179%
Q8S 39.229%
Q7S 37.927%
Q6S 37.841%
Q5S 37.249%
Q4S 36.609%
Q3S 35.948%
Q2S 35.264%
QJO 41.603%
QTO 39.664%
Q9O 36.783%
Q8O 35.763%
Q7O 34.374%
Q6O 34.283%
Q5O 33.660%
Q4O 32.971%
Q3O 32.258%
Q2O 31.518%
JTS 41.854%
J9S 39.768%
J8S 38.841%
J7S 37.527%
J6S 36.257%
J5S 35.924%
J4S 35.282%
J3S 34.607%
J2S 33.908%
JTO 38.618%
J9O 36.371%
J8O 35.374%
J7O 33.971%
J6O 32.615%
J5O 32.272%
J4O 31.579%
J3O 30.852%
J2O 30.098%
T9S 40.245%
T8S 39.329%
T7S 38.005%
T6S 36.696%
T5S 35.111%
T4S 34.720%
T3S 34.043%
T2S 33.344%
T9O 36.903%
T8O 35.917%
T7O 34.503%
T6O 33.105%
T5O 31.421%
T4O 31.001%
T3O 30.272%
T2O 29.517%
98S 40.048%
97S 38.835%
96S 37.542%
95S 35.944%
94S 34.265%
93S 33.883%
92S 33.196%
98O 36.697%
97O 35.407%
96O 34.028%
95O 32.330%
94O 30.532%
93O 30.120%
87S 39.789%
76S 39.164%
65S 38.342%
54S 37.531%
43S 35.163%
32S 32.724%
87O 36.433%
76O 35.775%
65O 34.914%
54O 34.059%
43O 31.532%
32O 28.928%
86S 38.569%
75S 37.657%
64S 36.772%
53S 35.868%
42S 33.460%
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:26 PM   #265
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God. The last 5 posts are just idiotic.

"Everyone can beat high stakes"

What planet are you on? I doubt 90% of SSNL winnars could show a profit at 5/10+ choo chooing with an intrinsic advantage. Let alone ever reach the point of being to beat it at deep stack.

Also, I'll enlighten you why there are many winning Choo Choo at HSNL. "IT IS [censored] HARD" If it was so ******edly easy then everyone would do it.

Its amazing how most of the MSNL "elite" live inside some sort of stupid zone where they can't understand math.
lets save some time, HU 4 rollz?

want to compare win rates for last 100k hands?

no? then go back into your [censored] hole
Actually, I'd prefer you to explain how you can be breakeven v a competent SS without giving up a massive edge to other full stack players. This myth never gets old.
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:26 PM   #266
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this thread is loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong

should i read it?

lol shortstackaments
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:28 PM   #267
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this thread is loooooooooooooooooooooooooooong

should i read it?

lol shortstackaments
maybe
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:32 PM   #268
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other ranges I should look at

22+,A2s+,K8s+,Q9s+,J8s+,T8s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,65s,54 s,A2o+,K9o+,Q9o+,J9o+,T9o
34.7%


22+,A2s+,K9s+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,65s,A7o+,KT o+,QTo+,JTo
24.9%



If anyone wants to look at one of those and post it...go ahead


believe it or not, it doesn't need to get more specific as the hands don't change all that much
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Old 11-17-2007, 05:39 AM   #269
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Sooooo... cliff notes?
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The money in shortstacking is at 6max.
Open raise smaller than you would if you had a full stack.
Like regular poker, play tight up front and (open) loose in the back.
DIAFGF, ban, I hate MTTR, ban, choo choo.
Resteal shove against ranges that it is profitable to do so.
Profit.
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Old 11-17-2007, 11:52 AM   #272
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I dont think any great ss is really sad about this thread.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:39 PM   #273
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MyTrun2Raise is not even good, idk why anyone would want to learn from him. He has even admitted to being a V small winner, and dependent on RB and bonuses for any real profit.

anyone can be a winning SS'er if they put in the time to learn the math involved, however for the vast majority of players you will be more long-term +ev full stacking
doubtful...the vast majority would be in better financial situation shorting IMO
lol
I would be suprised to see a SS'er @ 2/4+ winning over 2ptbb/100 over a large sample. and if there are some, I would confidently guess its <10.

This is one of the dumber posts I have seen in this thread. Next you'll tell me no one can make a living trading vol or beating the stock market. 2 per 100? LOL.
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:29 PM   #274
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prove me wrong then. please.
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:48 PM   #275
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Sooooo... cliff notes?
The money in shortstacking is at 6max.
Open raise smaller than you would if you had a full stack.
Like regular poker, play tight up front and (open) loose in the back.
DIAFGF, ban, I hate MTTR, ban, choo choo.
Resteal shove against ranges that it is profitable to do so.
Profit.
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