Huh, I'm really confused. I haven't read the whole thread yet but I just glanced through and saw that someone suggested that if you raise JJ and get reraised you should fold..??
My default here is always call. Perhaps the games you play are tighter; I usually select 40%+ tables to join on stars, but by the time I've joined most of them would be around 30% due to fish busting out, sometimes as low as 25%, but still I can't see how folding JJ is the correct move readless. Against someone with less than 15% VPIP, maybe, but SSS is mainly aimed at fish, correct?
Actually I was PMed and sent here. I'm not a very good player, but I SS sometimes to bonus whore and when I'm tired. I transition between short stack and fullstack; that is to say, I would double/triple up, finish the orbit, then decide whether to stay or not. SS gives me a chance to pick up some basic vpip stats before I play and find optimal tables, and it's also highly profitable in itself. I posted my basic strategy at a request here:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32...84/index2.html
It's the beginner's forum, and I myself am not a very good poker player, but I figured I'd put my observations here. I haven't read ed miller's guide or his other essays, but I run at 12.43 bb/100 (not ptbb) over 37k hands 16-24 tabling 25NL.
I've also read some comments about limping and such being terrible, but as I mention in my post, lower bb counts mean that you will be more willing to go to the felt with top pair marginal kicker, etc. I also sometimes flat call with low-mid pocket pairs, not to setmine, but to shove over when on the flop if I think the flop missed his range, etc. I also squeeze/bluff shove over raiser + limpers sometimes, limp shove, etc, cold call with aces (villain's call 3vet range is much smaller than their cbet/call shove on flop range imho; SSS is not about playing good players so you do not need to play unexploitably; shoving marginal AQs, etc and flat calling or non-all-in-raising AA KK will very often NOT be exploited by fish). Also, I don't always stop and go, etc, I will balance my unexploitable shove (K9s from the button) by open shoving with AKs also...
My stats are:
bb/100: 12.43
VPIP%: 15.4
PFR: 9.1
AGG. 2.9
Agg%:21.4
WTSD: 40
W$SD% 49.5
WWSF: 37
3Bet: 5
4bet: 3.6
call 3bet: 49.3
6ptbb/100 is not amazing, especially at 25NL, but considering that it's 16-24 table, I think these results indicate that my strategy is effective to a degree, and that not shoving on any flop is not necessarily bad. You will notice that my vpip pfr ratio is pretty pathetic.
On the whole, my strategy is very different from what I've been hearing people talk about, ie shove AJs+ AQo+, TT+. I've raised 22 UTG, open limped KQ, and all sorts of "bad" things.
Comments?
btw, over 1k hands, my bb/100 at 50NL is 2-3ptbb/100 only, so a significant drop. I also find that table selection factors hugely; I only SS in the prime times, then move to 6max, which is my usual game.
edit: I haven't read every post in the thread yet, so if I said anything stupid or already mentioned --I imagine a lot of it has been covered in the 20 or so pages I have not yet read-- do forgive me. I will read as soon as I can, but I just thought I'd post my experience, and perhaps there's something helpful in it.