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Merge - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: $9.90
Hero (BB): $14.49
UTG: $36.84
UTG+1: $10.15
MP: $15.30
MP+1: $9.95
CO: $3.15
BTN: $5.29

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Kc Ks

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, MP+1 calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.05, 2 players) 6d 7d 3c
Hero bets $1.53, MP+1 raises to $8.95 and is all-in, Hero calls $7.42

Turn: ($19.95, 2 players) 5h

River: ($19.95, 2 players) 9h

[SPOIL]Hero shows Kc Ks (One Pair, Kings) (PreFlop 80%, Flop 10%, Turn 9%)
MP+1 shows 6h 6s (Three of a Kind, Sixes) (PreFlop 20%, Flop 90%, Turn 91%)
MP+1 wins $18.96

What's the question?

ibtl

post villains stats


standard cooler, also he is shoving flushdraws and TT+ on this board

Where's the hand converter?

why?

if villain is unknow i don't stackoff here because i presume he is playing a solid poker till he proves the opposite.

If you assume villain is a solid player in this case then a stack-off is even easier, since a solid player shouldn't be calling this 3 bet PF to set mine.

i see a lot of people saying this but i disagree, because in poker every things depend of the villain and with some villain we can call a 3bet to set-mine profitable, if we are sure that they 3bet only KK/AA and get sticky with them.

in this spot if i'm villain i call this every time IP to set-mine or bluff-catch if hero 3bet AK.

You do realise this is a losing play, right?

Even if you know 100% for sure that villain has aces and is going to get his 100BB stack in no matter what the flop.

why?

i have to call 7BB for win 13BB+90BB

i got a 1:13,3 odds to call here, and given the assumption this is a +EV spot.

i get a set ~ 1:10 and a set over set ~ 1:100 right?

so if we play this hand 100times and get it in only when we hit sets on the flop we see:

103BB * 10 - (7BB *90 + 100BB * 1 ) = +300BB

Ok, given the most basic premise here it is a marginal profit scenario (you aren't accounting for rake which is significant).

Add in other factors such as the fact anyone decent probably isn't going to lose 100BBs in these cases 100% of the time and you have a losing play.

How deep stacked do you need to be to call the same three bet?

I guess this a mistake I have been making :\... calling too large of three bets with hands that need to set up.

weird, i usually assume the opposite

Yes, but in reality the vast majority of villains are 3betting wider than just AA, lol

Even vs a very tight value range like {QQ+, AK} it's still a questionable spot to setmine due to the times they have QQ/KK and an overcard flops, or the times they have AK and brick the flop

this is why people has to 3bet at least AK QQ+, but a lot of people doesn't do this, so if i'm sure that villain 3bet only AA/KK i will set-mine all day.

i'm sure this is villain dependent and not always a bad play.

if we assume that a villain that 3bet with AK and QQ can fold this hand if they see aggression our call can be more profitable even if we don't hit a set.

his range for shoving flop consist of underpairs to you but overpairs to the board & draws way more than sets or slow played AA hence its a back spin flip happy dance call...

yeah kinda ****ty spot to get in