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Instructional Video JE01 - Moving up to 100nl and winning with a TAG style Instructional Video JE01 - Moving up to 100nl and winning with a TAG style

05-15-2008 , 10:31 PM
Hi guys, I posted about this video in the Chat thread, and here it is!
I have been a small stakes pro for 2+ years, and a full ring NL pro for 7-8 months. I wanted to make a video for you micro guys to perhaps help you in moving up to 100nl and beyond. Enjoy, questions and comments appreciated!

Johnny


Covered in this video:


* Note taking at SSFR
* Knowing your opponents
* My HUD Setup
* Four Exploitable Styles of Play Common at 100nl
* Overview of the Less-Exploitable Style - TAG
* Preflop adjustments at 100-200NL+
* Introduction to 3bets, 4bets, and Squeeze plays

Megaupload Link to Video


Here is the info referred to in the video -

Note Taking - Abbreviations

CDL - Calls down light postflop
LRR - Limp reraises preflop
BLF - Big Bluffer
BISK - Bluffs if shown weakness postflop
BRISK - Bluffs river if shown weakness
FLT - Floats
3BL - 3 bets light
TRP - Trappy postflop (checkraises, floats, etc)
SOL - Stacks off light
CR - Check raises frequently
DNB - Do not bluff
FTDB - Folds to double barrel
OBP - Overplays big pairs
SLW - Slowplays big hands/sets
RSS - Regular spite syndrome
VBT - Value bets thinly
DBS - Donk bets strong
DBW - Donk bets weak
MRS - Minraises flop strong
MRW - Minraises flop weak

My Color Coding Setup for FTP


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05-15-2008 , 11:10 PM
Thanks a lot, very much appreciate the effort. Do you think most of this applies to the 10NL-25NL level as well?

Looking forward to watching this soon.
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05-15-2008 , 11:19 PM
TYVM sir.

Downloading now and will comment ASAP.
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05-15-2008 , 11:35 PM
going to take me a while to download but just reading your abbreviation list is interesting. Out of interest, what sort of winrate do you enjoy at 100?
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05-15-2008 , 11:47 PM
Got it to work. Had to download this camtasia codec: http://www.techsmith.com/download/codecs.asp

Make sure to restart after you install.

*edit: Still won't play with VLC player, but it works in WMP and Divx players now.

Last edited by Tolnew; 05-16-2008 at 12:12 AM.
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05-15-2008 , 11:49 PM
I'm not done but I just noticed this hand...

some guy opens in the cutoff to $3, hero calls in bb w/A5s,

flop is Q73ss
check/check

turn is an ace putting up two flush draws
hero bets 5, c/o calls

river is a total blank like an offsuit deuce
hero bets $10, c/o folds

Guy would bet flop with a Q so he don't have that, he would call/raise with a better ace, and he's calling alot of draws, so we're valuetowning ourselves like 100% of the time if we bet. check/calling to induce is vastly superior to betting here.
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05-15-2008 , 11:49 PM
Didn't play for me either.
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05-16-2008 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Tolnew
Got it to work. Had to download this camtasia codec: http://www.techsmith.com/download/codecs.asp

Make sure to restart after you install.

*edit: Still won't play with VLC player, but it works in WMP and Divx players now.
Which one? The EnSharpen codec?
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05-16-2008 , 12:50 AM
ty vm. DLing now
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05-16-2008 , 01:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by I vi ii V7
Which one? The EnSharpen codec?
TSCC

btw, OP, thanks for the video. Good info in there.

Last edited by Tolnew; 05-16-2008 at 01:20 AM.
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05-16-2008 , 07:01 AM
dl it right now
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05-16-2008 , 07:35 AM
very nice video. thanks a lot!

i have a question concerning a hand (lower right table, 46:16min)

op raises pf w/ KTs and gets called by SB.
flop brings: FD and ISD. OP gets c/r and calls.

turn brings Kh w/ TPMK and still FD and ISD. villain checks and OP says "I try and like get him outta here" and shoves.

Why exactly would we want him out (what hands do we want to chase away) and what hands are calling our all-in anyway?
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05-16-2008 , 08:28 PM
Great video- I'd definitely recommend it to anyone reading here. There's a lot more to be learned from seeing someone's thought process over an entire session than more common posts where Hero wonders if he should've got away from TPTK before stacking off at some point.

The note-taking part of your video was especially helpful to me. I just started using a HUD with PT3, so it's useful to see what type of notes to put in that are more meaningful that TAG or loose fishy, or whatnot.

One hand I noticed that I'd play a little differently was on the top right table at 3:22. On the turn, you've got the second nut flush draw and an open-ended straight draw. I would've fired a bet and tried to pick it up there. It's a small pot, so it shouldn't be hard to get away from the hand if villain comes back at you strong.
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05-16-2008 , 08:39 PM
Thanks for the vid man, excellent stuff.

I have a question for you: I saw you fold AQo UTG. Is this normal for a TAG, or did you just fold it randomly? Also, is AQo generally an automatic fold OOP to a raise and call? Thanks.
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05-16-2008 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ShipItMehr
Thanks for the vid man, excellent stuff.

I have a question for you: I saw you fold AQo UTG. Is this normal for a TAG, or did you just fold it randomly? Also, is AQo generally an automatic fold OOP to a raise and call? Thanks.
AQo is not a strong hand OOP. AQs barely makes the cut, and even that's a stretch, imo.

I assume you're talking about when you have AQo in the blinds, and there's a raise and call. I'll reiterate: AQo is just not a strong hand OOP.
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05-16-2008 , 10:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShipItMehr
Thanks a lot, very much appreciate the effort. Do you think most of this applies to the 10NL-25NL level as well?

Looking forward to watching this soon.
Sure, fundamental poker knowledge applies to any level. I probably wouldn't play as aggressively at 10-25nl, perhaps like a 12/8 style with more playing hands for straight value than getting people to fold.
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05-16-2008 , 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstBlood
going to take me a while to download but just reading your abbreviation list is interesting. Out of interest, what sort of winrate do you enjoy at 100?
2.5ptbb after 150k hands of 100nl at FTP.
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05-16-2008 , 10:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chargers In 08
I'm not done but I just noticed this hand...

some guy opens in the cutoff to $3, hero calls in bb w/A5s,

flop is Q73ss
check/check

turn is an ace putting up two flush draws
hero bets 5, c/o calls

river is a total blank like an offsuit deuce
hero bets $10, c/o folds

Guy would bet flop with a Q so he don't have that, he would call/raise with a better ace, and he's calling alot of draws, so we're valuetowning ourselves like 100% of the time if we bet. check/calling to induce is vastly superior to betting here.
True, that's a good point. I hadn't thought it through that well in the moment, I knew the opponent seemed rather loose at the time, and was kind of blindly going for value.
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05-16-2008 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstBlood
going to take me a while to download but just reading your abbreviation list is interesting. Out of interest, what sort of winrate do you enjoy at 100?
Did you ever get it to work? The codec posted should help you out.
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05-16-2008 , 11:00 PM
I liked the video. Although i think playing on deepstacked tables wasn't the best idea given that you said the video was to help lower limit players make the transition to 100nl (and higher) following a TAG style. There is a different dynamic when you are playing 200bbs deep, which we saw have an effect on your lines in multiple hands in the video. Deepstacked a lot more unique spots come up when I think it's probably better to be educating lower limit players on more standard spots where they have a decision for only 100bbs. Preflop ranges, opening, 3betting etc are going to vary a reasonable amount in deeper games so I think it probably makes it a bit harder to apply what we see in your video to our own games if we are only playing with 100bb stacks.

Apart from that nice work, and thanks for the video
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05-16-2008 , 11:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by free_turn_card
very nice video. thanks a lot!

i have a question concerning a hand (lower right table, 46:16min)

op raises pf w/ KTs and gets called by SB.
flop brings: FD and ISD. OP gets c/r and calls.

turn brings Kh w/ TPMK and still FD and ISD. villain checks and OP says "I try and like get him outta here" and shoves.

Why exactly would we want him out (what hands do we want to chase away) and what hands are calling our all-in anyway?
Yea I explained this hand badly, I think I was distracted by talking and the other big hand going on at the top left table.

Youre right that nothing worse is calling unless he thinks im bluffing, so I should have said 'lets get him to call way behind with draws and worse hands cuz it looks like I'm bluffing'. I also could have bet like 25 dollars trying to get a call or shove from 78/AJ/NFD etc.

What would you have done on the turn?
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05-16-2008 , 11:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mog
Great video- I'd definitely recommend it to anyone reading here. There's a lot more to be learned from seeing someone's thought process over an entire session than more common posts where Hero wonders if he should've got away from TPTK before stacking off at some point.

The note-taking part of your video was especially helpful to me. I just started using a HUD with PT3, so it's useful to see what type of notes to put in that are more meaningful that TAG or loose fishy, or whatnot.

One hand I noticed that I'd play a little differently was on the top right table at 3:22. On the turn, you've got the second nut flush draw and an open-ended straight draw. I would've fired a bet and tried to pick it up there. It's a small pot, so it shouldn't be hard to get away from the hand if villain comes back at you strong.
Thanks for the feedback! Glad that you got something out of it Mog. I am having trouble however, finding the hand you refer to, I see no action on that table at 3:22.
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05-16-2008 , 11:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShipItMehr
Thanks for the vid man, excellent stuff.

I have a question for you: I saw you fold AQo UTG. Is this normal for a TAG, or did you just fold it randomly? Also, is AQo generally an automatic fold OOP to a raise and call? Thanks.
AQo in EP is a standard fold for me. The only reason to play it there would be for range obfuscation. AQs however, I usually raise for said reason because it flops much better. Around MP I start raising AQo if it folds to me.

It is definitely not an instafold OOP ( I assume you mean in the blinds) facing a raise and call. If it is a good squeeze play opportunity, then AQ is a fine and common hand to do so with OOP. I would not be flatting raises OOP with AQo though, it is a raise or fold.
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05-17-2008 , 02:50 AM
i liked your vid, hope you make some more!
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05-17-2008 , 03:13 AM
i'll try to finish it tomorrow...but from what i saw...

1.) dont like the KQs overlimp in EP/MP. iso the idiot
2.) with KQs OTB from EP raise by aggrotard...i like callin 150bb deep rather than makin a rly odd stack size pot with a semi-strong hand.
3.) with 96cc when u river ur flush against aggrotard...make it $44 on the river rather than $33. hell call off a lot of his range...so make the most of it when he does (also, i love the "spaz-raise"...works like a charm against aggrotards)

looks good so far. how often are u changing ur PFR from 3.5-4bb?

(also...didnt who u were. just assumed u were 2p2 (cuz weve played together some))
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