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How badly did i butcher pocket kings? How badly did i butcher pocket kings?

03-13-2018 , 11:54 PM
Ignition .02/.05

Hero (MP+2): 100 BB
BTN: 126 BB
SB: 120 BB
BB: 51 BB
UTG: 115 BB
UTG+1: 82 BB
MP: 68.4 BB
MP+1: 140 BB
MP+3: 58 BB

SB posts SB 0.02, BB posts .05

Pre Flop: (pot: .07) Hero has KsKh

fold, utg raises to .15, fold, Hero calls , fold, BTN Calls , BB calls

Flop: (.42, 4 players) 2c 6c Td
BB bets .10, Hero calls, BTN calls, UTG

Turn: (.72, 3 players) 5s
BB checks, Hero raises .15, BB calls, BTN Folds

River: ($1.17, 2 players) 6s
BB checks, Hero bets .45, BB raises 90, hero calls

BB shows 8h6h

Thank you for looking at this (my first post to 2+2) Looking back I feel as if I should of 3 bet, but I'm excited to hear opinions on my terrible play. Thank you to anyone who looks at this and gives me criticism and feed back. Also I typed this out by hand so please disregard any typos.
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03-14-2018 , 02:16 AM
Welcome to the forums, Gooner!

My default would be to 3! this pre-flop.

With a two suited flop, you need to make sure more chips go into the pot on the flop and the turn to charge any draws -- on both streets the villains are getting pot odds to draw at their flush draws. As played, I raise on the flop and, as played, I bet more on the turn.

As played, the river looks OK -- you only have to win ~1/6 to make the call and there are a bunch of Tx in villain's hand, not to mention, he may be bluffing with a busted draw.

Finally, in the future, please don't post the hand results, they will often influence the advice you get.
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03-14-2018 , 03:30 AM
Definitely 3-bet preflop. With kings we'd much rather see the flop against one opponent than three, and calling allows the players behind us to see a cheap flop with all sorts of holdings.

The flop action is confusing. I suppose it's supposed to be BB bets, UTG+1 folds, hero calls and button calls? The BB leading here doesn't make much sense. I'm not sure what to make of it. Considering the BB has a tiny stack I'd probably just raise flop and try to get the rest of the money in on subsequent streets.

As played, definitely go bigger on the turn. Tx is not going anywhere if you make it .55 here. River seems fine.
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03-14-2018 , 11:41 AM
The default here, should be to 3bet preflop to 10-12BB or so. You could just flat pre, but that's really just better if you know villain will fold a ton preflop; and in that case, you're better off 3bet-bluffing more.

I'd much rather raise the flop than flat here. If the flop donk is TP or a smaller overpair, he's probably not folding to a raise and we're almost always ahead of UTG when he just flats this tiny donk bet. Raise flop to .50 and continue from there.

As played on the flop, just bet the turn for .60-.70 for value.

River call is fine, but you're gonna be beaten here more often than not (but not often enough to fold, though)
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03-14-2018 , 12:36 PM
Pre: this is a 3bet most of the time. I'll flat sometimes if the table squeezes a lot, but by flatting you give the players behind nice odds to see a flop with speculative hands.

Flop: when he bets this small, you have to raise. If not, you will face a tough decision on later streets if someone shows aggression. Even with a 1/2 pot raise, they will call with TPGK and flush draws.

Turn: as played, bet way bigger. 2/3 pot is fine.

River: and here is the tough decision I was talking about! As played, this is a call. But you gave them nice odds to draw their 2p+.
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03-14-2018 , 09:19 PM
As above really.

This is criminal bud. Unless we have an aggro donk ahead that's been 3B every hand (even then id like two ahead for this) we have to 3B here. Ending up oop multiway is appalling.

Raise the flop. We likely get value from TP and even some second pairs come along most likely.

Bet more on the turn.

Over 5:1 on the river call sucks, You know its a 6, he knows you know its a 6. You know he knows you know you're never folding! a min c/r here nuts V's range and you have to call because of the very slight chance V has just had a stroke and miss clicked min raise.

No more fancy play at the micros man!
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03-15-2018 , 10:52 PM
Just wanted to thank everyone for their input! I've written I will always 3 bet with kings 100 times and now I'm off to see what I can screw up next! I really appreciate the tip to bet out bigger on the turn, and will be adding that into my game. Thank you all again!
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03-18-2018 , 02:17 PM
There ARE times to flat KK preflop, but readless, there's always value there. As I said in my other post, against someone who's folding to 3bet a ton, you can call here sometimes. If you have a lunatic who's 3betting and squeezing half the time and want to induce his wackiness, calling is also very good. There are some stack depths, as well, where calling is good too, but yeah, 3betting should be the default play.
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