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NL2 - Did I play it right? (5) NL2 - Did I play it right? (5)

02-05-2019 , 03:19 PM
I tried to semi-bluff with some full house odds and maybe represent the flush. Did I play it correctly?

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PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+2: 103.5 BB (VPIP: 13.14, PFR: 11.68, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 140)
Hero (CO): 144 BB
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 3.85, PFR: 3.85, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
SB: 85 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 9.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 81)
BB: 92 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 18.02, PFR: 10.24, 3Bet Preflop: 1.64, Hands: 333)
UTG+1: 225.5 BB (VPIP: 32.76, PFR: 18.97, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 58)
MP: 105.5 BB (VPIP: 20.34, PFR: 12.99, 3Bet Preflop: 6.85, Hands: 181)
MP+1: 188 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 21.74, Hands: 56)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q T

fold, UTG+1 raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (12 BB, 4 players) Q T K
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB, fold, fold

Turn: (34 BB, 2 players) 5
UTG+1 bets 26 BB, Hero raises to 62.5 BB, UTG+1 raises to 211 BB, fold

UTG+1 wins 153.5 BB
NL2 - Did I play it right? (5) Quote
02-10-2019 , 10:47 PM
Fold preflop.
This hand will be too easily dominated by villain's opening range.
NL2 - Did I play it right? (5) Quote
02-11-2019 , 06:09 PM
fold pre, weak vs a strong ep open, rake makes it impossible to profit
call turn and fold to big river bets unimproved
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02-12-2019 , 12:35 PM
Fold pf, but as played I hate the turn raise.

We can't call the all in and it is very unlikely we are folding out anything but bluffs with air here. Folding to the turn bet is a decent option but I'd call the turn bet and evaluate the river. If no club, ten, ace or king hits I probably call a moderate bet. You also have the chance of boating up by playing it this way.
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02-12-2019 , 07:28 PM
Thanks
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02-14-2019 , 01:35 PM
I agree this is probably a fold pre but not a terrible flat either considering UTG+1 is pretty loose. Also the button doesn't look very likely to come along and QTs is a deceptive hand which I prefer in these kinds of spots vs, say AQo, JJ, or KTs.

Post flop I would be looking at UTG+1's c-bet frequency and aggression frequency. With only 58 hands it probably isn't great but should give a rough idea. If his flop c-bet frequency is more than like 50%, I like a raise on the flop. Odds are actually pretty low that UTG+1 has the nuts because your hand and the board block a lot of the top of his range. You're very likely ahead at this point in the hand and have clean outs if you're not. I'd raise to something like 35BB here to try to isolate or possibly take it down now and re-evaluate on the turn. If his aggression and c-bet frequencies are lower, I think this spot is a little dicier and I might just fold since there are 2 players behind. Calling is a little too passive here for me in a 4-way pot.

As played on the flop, I would just call the turn bet as UTG+1's range is narrower at this point in the hand. As other's have mentioned, I think a raise is the wrong move here. You actually have a fairly strong hand for your range and turning it into a bluff probably means you're bluffing too much. Also, you're unlikely to get better hands to fold and if villain 3-bets with something like AA with the ace of spades or a 1 pair hand with a spade and a gutshot and you fold, that's basically a disaster. Just try to keep your opponent's range wide and get to showdown as cheaply as possible in these spots and fold the river on bad runouts.
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02-14-2019 , 03:23 PM
Preflop
I could see this being a fold or a call. I tend to follow the advice and ranges that Ed Miller gives in The Course, and QTs is at the bottom of his recommended range for calling a loose open from the CO.

As for whether or not Villain is loose, the PFR and 3bet percentages indicate that he's loose, but the sample size is small. Still though, most people at NL2 just don't 3bet nearly enough so if this guy is 3betting light, I'd take that as a reasonably strong sign that he's an active player. I'd also look for signs of fishy play, like limping and donking. If Villain was making those sorts of plays, I'd start to think that the PFR and 3bet percentages could be anomalies, and that maybe he isn't so active after all.

An important question to answer is how you're going to make money postflop. It'd be great if you had a read on Villain where you could bluff him off of some spots postflop. Eg. maybe Villain cbets everything and then check-folds the turn, in which case you could make money by floating. Another possibility is that you make money with implied odds if Villain spews, or if there are fish behind who give you better implied odds. If you have clear answers to these sorts of questions, I'd be content with a call. But if you are just "calling to call", I'd recommend against it.

Flop
Interesting spot. Versus a passive opponent, I would think they'd only be betting stuff that crushes you. It's hard to see a passive opponent betting AA, AK, AQ, JJ on this super scary board versus three opponents, especially when the bet size is bigger. Your opponent seems to be more aggressive though, and at NL2 perhaps people don't realize that AA becomes a pretty mediocre hand on this board. Still, even if they're betting some of that stuff, there's also a lot of value that they could have, and that either of the two blinds could be checking, so I lean towards folding.

Turn
When Villain bets a second time, maybe he could still have AA and AK, but I have a much harder time believing that he has something like AQ or JJ. It's nice that the blinds aren't in the pot anymore because now you don't have to worry about them slow playing the nuts, but I think that Villain's range is just too strong here to justify calling when you only have four outs.

By raising, I don't think that it accomplishes anything. If the raise is for value, Villain might be folding AA and AK on this scary board, and even if they do call with those hands, I think that they have enough value where you don't have the required 50% equity versus their calling range. If the raise is as a bluff, I just don't think Villain is ever folding something like KQ or TT at NL2. Check out the writing on Fancy Play Syndrome. It's a trap that many people including myself fall into, and it seems to be what is going on here with the raise.

When Villain shoves over your raise, I definitely think you have to fold. It's even less likely that they have AA or AK now. They probably are only shoving with stuff that crushes you.
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02-20-2019 , 03:09 AM
Don't fold pre from the cutoff. You have a playable hand in position. Just call down. Do not raise. You only get called by better and lose more money.

If you had called the turn, you could have called river comfortably most likely.
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