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Old 03-18-2019, 11:09 AM   #1
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Folding JJ preflop because of a HUD stat

Sorry don't have access to hand history from work so I'll try to make it easy to read a possible.

$0.10/$0.20 $20nl

UTG: Fold
EP1: ($20) Raise 4BB $0.80
EP2: Fold
LJ ($70ish): Raise $2.75
HJ: Fold
Hero ($35): JJ?

So I folded and ended up being right. LJ had KK and EP1 had TT (called the 3bet and lost at showdown).

I folded preflop and wondered if that was the right move in theory. I seen it as an exploitative fold because of LJ's HUD stats. Super weak loose.

Hand Sample Size 238
VP$P was 57%
PFR 2%
3bet 1%

Should pocket broadway pairs be snap calls or 4bets or do you trust your read in that spot?

I know application and theory do not line up 100% of the time. Just wondering what the correct theory answer is.
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Old 03-18-2019, 04:20 PM   #2
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Re: Folding JJ preflop because of a HUD stat

It's not the biggest sample size. In the SB, I think I'd feel better about folding. On the BTN though, I dunno.
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Old 03-20-2019, 06:54 AM   #3
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Re: Folding JJ preflop because of a HUD stat

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Old 03-21-2019, 11:30 PM   #4
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Re: Folding JJ preflop because of a HUD stat

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Sorry don't have access to hand history from work so I'll try to make it easy to read a possible.

$0.10/$0.20 $20nl

UTG: Fold
EP1: ($20) Raise 4BB $0.80
EP2: Fold
LJ ($70ish): Raise $2.75
HJ: Fold
Hero ($35): JJ?

So I folded and ended up being right. LJ had KK and EP1 had TT (called the 3bet and lost at showdown).

I folded preflop and wondered if that was the right move in theory. I seen it as an exploitative fold because of LJ's HUD stats. Super weak loose.

Hand Sample Size 238
VP$P was 57%
PFR 2%
3bet 1%

Should pocket broadway pairs be snap calls or 4bets or do you trust your read in that spot?

I know application and theory do not line up 100% of the time. Just wondering what the correct theory answer is.
It's a call because you're 175bb deep. You'll very likely win a lot of money every time you flop a set.
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Old 03-22-2019, 08:03 AM   #5
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Re: Folding JJ preflop because of a HUD stat

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It's a call because you're 175bb deep. You'll very likely win a lot of money every time you flop a set.
hey give Mzbourg a gold star , finally got something right.
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Old 03-22-2019, 08:10 AM   #6
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hey give Mzbourg a gold star , finally got something right.

This is 4x your stake. I dont think you’re advanced enough yet to be even reading this.
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Old 03-22-2019, 06:15 PM   #7
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Re: Folding JJ preflop because of a HUD stat

good exploitative fold-- the pot odds are kinda close but you do have position // I'd say if you were a bit deeper then call. Also you have to consider the EP1 reshove so I'd say you'd have to be pretty deep to justify a call.
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Old 03-22-2019, 06:58 PM   #8
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good exploitative fold-- the pot odds are kinda close but you do have position // I'd say if you were a bit deeper then call. Also you have to consider the EP1 reshove so I'd say you'd have to be pretty deep to justify a call.


Yeah well you’re wrong.
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