PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 79 BB
UTG+1: 163.9 BB
MP: 70.4 BB
MP+1: 105.3 BB
Hero (MP+2): 140 BB
CO: 86 BB
BTN: 85.3 BB
SB: 108.1 BB
BB: 56.2 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1.5 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 3 BB) Hero has T Q

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, CO calls 2 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (13 BB, 4 players) A 3 5
BB bets 3 BB, UTG calls 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, CO raises to 10 BB, BB calls 7 BB, fold, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (46 BB, 3 players) Q
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets 10 BB, BB calls 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

River: (76 BB, 3 players) T
BB bets 33.2 BB and is all-in, hero ????


Do you think calling PF is bad here? And why folding or calling otr?

Ye don't call pre MPvsEP with such easily dominated hands. Flop and turn is well played fold river.

I'm on the fence as to calling pre, probably leaning towards a fold, but could occasionally call as long as "occasionally" is just that and not "every-single-time."

You had odds to call both Flop and Turn.

Fold river. I'm more likely to call if the T wasn't a ♣

TP just doesn't have enough relative strength given runout and being 3-ways with the BB being the jammer.

Pre is fine especially if EP is a player we want to play IP vs or we have large fish behind. I don't even hate 3b pre if players behind are snug (as I don't expect to get light 4b) and the villain is opening way too wide.

QTs can do alright multiway but vs players EP we have to play cautious + multiway.

Everything seems fine post, just fold river.

Generally folding QTs here pre is going to be just fine, especially at 10NL.

i think fold pre, but in that situation on river I think its effectively top pair.
Although villain plays it weak on the turn? is this an auto fold given you are not getting bad odds 5-1?

I think generally people get too worked up about preflop, but I'm certainly folding here because:

1. Your position isn't great. If you call, CO who has posted a blind will always be calling, then the button will call with any playable hand and all of a sudden you're OOP in a multiway pot with small SPR.
2. Stack sizes. UTG at 79BB. QTs needs stack depth to play well. If CO calls that's another opponent with a short stack.
3. UTG likely to be stronger than normal, you are up against a lot of big pairs which crush you, a lot of big Broadway hands which dominate you, and only a small number of underpairs/small suited connectors etc.
4. Absolute hand strength. QTs is weak and is going to play basically like a suited one-gapper vs a UTG open. Would you want to play 86s vs UTG with short stacks?

Depending on what information you have on UTG you could consider a raise in order to get heads up and position - I much prefer this to a call - but you would need to be happy that you have some fold equity because if UTG calls then you're in a shallow SPR spot.

Flop and turn are OK, pot odds dictate, no reason to raise, too much equity to fold. Bear in mind you can be up against plenty of better flush draws (CO and BB have all sorts of K4s etc).

The problem on the river is that you've had one player who's shown strength on flop and turn (albeit awful sizing) and now BB suddenly shoves. There are loads and loads of hands you lose to (flushes, straights, sets, better 2 pair), the chances of this being a random bluff by the BB with a busted flush draw are infinitesimal and your hand is only strong enough to be a bluff catcher. Clear fold, you could be behind both players here.

Let me try to sum up the previous answers: You need a rationale for doing it but you didn't provide one.

IMO, one rationale would be that UTG is pretty recreational and the players behind aren't squeeze-happy. Another would be that a player behind (ideally, in the blinds) is a mark and likely to come along for the ride.

Actually, I folded this hand but I might ask myself if the BB had got the flush, why would he have donkbet it otf? With a backdoor? And why would he have called CO raise?
AT? The CO raised otf and I don't believe he would've done it with just TP. He bet again ott, although he made a mistake in betting just less than a quarter of the pot. But what about river? The only hand I see here is 5c3c!
I folded because the CO was behind me and it's like you said, I called in a bad position! You're absolutely right!