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02-02-2010 , 08:34 PM
wow u wrote a lot, ty.

how do u make it so u only have hands on villain from the last 3 months?

when u click on a stat it shows a popup with more detailed info about it. is their a way to choose what info it shows?
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02-02-2010 , 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dabomb75
Think you can post a pic of it so us HEM users can copy it to the best of our abilities (as long as that's allowed)
I posted some HUD stuff in a thread a week or two ago, here it is (popups are from Kraada's HUD)

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Originally Posted by JL514
I would say that you should definitely reconsider your stance on popups. My hud is two lines, with a popup for each line:




Popups can have so much good info.

Also, consider using stats that are customized -- colored by another stat. For example, on my HUD, villains PFR is a % obv. But I can find his 'foldto3b' % by looking at the color of his PFR stat. So if his PFR shows up pink '11', that means he is PFR 11% and folds to 3 a lot (pink is 90+%). Also, I take no credit for the popups, they and some of my other stats are ripped right from Kraada's PT3 layout
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02-02-2010 , 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by remedys
wow u wrote a lot, ty.

how do u make it so u only have hands on villain from the last 3 months?

when u click on a stat it shows a popup with more detailed info about it. is their a way to choose what info it shows?
lol. i do have a tendency to write a ton...thus why i want to take a vacation between COTWs =)

As for data filter:

HEM>HEM Options>Additional HUD Filters
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02-03-2010 , 09:21 AM
Thanks Split, that was a good read. It would be interesting to get the viewpoint of a tight aggressive player as far as the stats he carries. You mentioned a LAG's hud should be setup somewhat different from a TAG's as their postflop objectives are slightly different.
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02-03-2010 , 03:30 PM
yea...im sure a TAG can offer theirs up =)
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02-03-2010 , 06:13 PM
I'm pretty much a TAG, but I also probably use a to few many stats on my main display.

I use PFR/VPIP/3bet/ST/AF/AFQ/Flop C-bet/Turn C-bet/Fold flop Cbet/Fold Turn C-bet/Fold steal/Fold to 3 bet/went to show down/won at show down.

I run stacked have two groupings of 2 lines (one above their money and one under) and have the abbreviations showing.

My HUD is a constantly changing process (still pissed I can't download krada or a similar set up for HEM - I really want that donking information) so take it for what its worth.

Oh, and my pop ups suck because I never changed them from the defaults.
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02-03-2010 , 10:35 PM
Great read, definitely gives me some more stuff to think about.
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02-03-2010 , 10:43 PM
yeah. split for mod
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02-04-2010 , 05:16 PM
<3
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02-05-2010 , 10:43 AM
good post man, altough i really believe a hud will decrease your learning ability as a poker player
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02-05-2010 , 11:34 AM
I disagree -- if anything, using a HUD teaches you that there are distinct player types and allows you to learn which lines to use vs these player types.

You can then play HUDless (or live) even better.
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02-05-2010 , 11:48 AM
Hud is like a graphing calculator. If you use it to do all the work for you, then you will pass all your classes up to a certain point, and then hit a wall. If you use it to enhance your natural abilities and learn the why behind its functions, then it will let you do/learn more at an accelerated rate.
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02-05-2010 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JL514
I disagree -- if anything, using a HUD teaches you that there are distinct player types and allows you to learn which lines to use vs these player types.
Why do you think you need a hud for this?

You have good players, bad players, okay players, you have passive players and aggressive players.
15/13 doesn't really tell much, altough I think VPIP and PFR are pretty handy with a big sample size to put somebody on a range of hands
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02-05-2010 , 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TheDataKid
Why do you think you need a hud for this?

You have good players, bad players, okay players, you have passive players and aggressive players.
15/13 doesn't really tell much, altough I think VPIP and PFR are pretty handy with a big sample size to put somebody on a range of hands
Wait -- you just posted VPIP/PFR saying it doesn't tell you much then said it's quite handy?

You don't need a HUD to assign player types. But playing with a HUD shows you that there ARE player types, and what their usual tendencies are.
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02-05-2010 , 12:58 PM
like Split says its all about sample size.
Split explains it pretty well, a 1k sample size where you have somebody on a 15/12 tells you a lot more then 30 hands, obviously
But people do change their game, somebody might open up or tighten up. All of this Split points out his post.

So a vpip/pfr is handy to asign somebodys range, but further it doesn't really tell you much. It doesnt tell you about his post flop tendencies.
Some 14/12s play their draws passivly, some raise it on the flop, just a small example!

It also doesn't tell you if he good or not. You can have a player with very solid pre flop stats but he will mess up trough all 3 streets post flop.

The rest of the stats are worse. 3-betting stats I find pretty useless, and I can very much understand how a lot of people would disagree with me here

Stats don't tell you anything about game dynamics, or dynamics between players. 3-betting stats doesn't tell you how much somebody is 3-betting against YOU

At the micro's I think vpip/pfr is handy to have, because you play against so many unknowns. It's very good that Split points out how important sample size is, and I do believe that most people who are just starting out base their decisions way to much on the small sample size HUD stats.

I think you make a very good point that a hud shows you that there are different player types, really a good point.

Last edited by TheDataKid; 02-05-2010 at 01:03 PM.
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02-06-2010 , 02:17 PM
Where is the "fold to flop check raise" stat in HEM? best i can find is "fold flop CB vs raise"
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02-06-2010 , 03:27 PM
in the check raise tab between aggression and c-betting
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02-06-2010 , 04:06 PM


i still dont see "fold to flop check raise"
i'm using 1.10 beta 5 btw
if its in the newer version ill download it.
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02-07-2010 , 06:38 PM
Split,

Went to the HEM website and found their HUD stat guide. Can't find FoldvFlopCR or RiverCallWin% (as a HUD stat). Little help, please?
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02-07-2010 , 07:39 PM
Great post as usual, haven't been around for a while in uNLFR, will get down to work on this thread as soon as I wake up tomorrow

Well done!
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02-07-2010 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CDAC
Split,

Went to the HEM website and found their HUD stat guide. Can't find FoldvFlopCR or RiverCallWin% (as a HUD stat). Little help, please?
they might not be there. I don't personally use them on my HUD. I believe they are in my popup though for some odd reasn
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02-07-2010 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dude-Bun
Great post as usual, haven't been around for a while in uNLFR, will get down to work on this thread as soon as I wake up tomorrow

Well done!
thank you sir =)
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02-08-2010 , 06:55 AM
Nice post *Split*. For sure i will add and change some of my hud stats after reading this COTW.
Even if i have the feeling that in the future people might play their villains a huge majority of the time just because of their stats without looking at their own cards. Games will getting much more aggressive and robotic, i think.
Some day i forgot to start my PT hud and i played without statsfor a while. It was fun to feel the "feeling" and "heart" coming back to the game. Of course i turned it on after i recognized it.

gl at the tables!
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02-08-2010 , 08:28 AM
Thank you OP, this was pure gold. Posts like this make me realize I have so much to learn about this game.
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