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Old 12-15-2009, 05:31 PM   #76
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Re: COTW: Becoming A LAG

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split do u also play 6max/HU nowadays?
no 6max unless i am super bored and want to mix it up

I went through a stint over the summer of playing HULHE...but no HUNL
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:13 PM   #77
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I don't understand why you are trying to work on becoming LAG martin, when your TAG game has leaks in it? Playing a Lag style is just going to focus more on those leaks, and you are going to bleed money.

Good post Splt, well done as always.
I dont know why but playing 21/17 is better/easier/more confortable for me than 13/11...
And be a LAG is cooler these days than stadard TAG like everybody reg out there...I want be always special...

@Split did you look over my last stats? Was this a LAG stats or still L without AG...??
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:17 PM   #78
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I dont know why but playing 21/17 is better/easier/more confortable for me than 13/11...
And be a LAG is cooler these days than stadard TAG like everybody reg out there...I want be always special...

@Split did you look over my last stats? Was this a LAG stats or still L without AG...??
Who cares what it's called? And you can still make really good money as a TAG, think about it. If LAGs make good money by exploiting nits who fold too much, how would a TAG make good money other than nut pedaling and hitting big?
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:26 PM   #79
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I dont know why but playing 21/17 is better/easier/more confortable for me than 13/11...
And be a LAG is cooler these days than stadard TAG like everybody reg out there...I want be always special...

@Split did you look over my last stats? Was this a LAG stats or still L without AG...??
yea, your ATS is pretty meh and your CB% isnt great imo. your 3b% could b good or bad...tough to say without seeing in action
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:31 PM   #80
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Great post Split, ty.

I had to read it, because i knew it would be high quality, although i'm trying to get nittier right now.
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:54 PM   #81
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Great post Split, ty.

I had to read it, because i knew it would be high quality, although i'm trying to get nittier right now.
thnk you

and why nittier!?
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:55 PM   #82
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Who cares what it's called? And you can still make really good money as a TAG, think about it. If LAGs make good money by exploiting nits who fold too much, how would a TAG make good money other than nut pedaling and hitting big?
I know but TAG is just standard reg style these days at FR...I always try not to be standard.
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:56 PM   #83
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Re: COTW: Becoming A LAG

Hey split,

Just to make myself clear, I'm not asking for coaching or sweat session or anything of the like, I honestly just want to get hands with u, if u ever feel like it - just pm me and I'll sit in even on like 1 table with u. I play 50nl on stars and I'm pretty much a beginner at that level (only 10k hands lifetime).

What's in it for you? nothing really, take it as a compliment from someone that has high respect for your game/posts/gameplay-seen-on-vid who thinks it would be a fun experience to share a table with u
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:12 PM   #84
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Hey split,

Just to make myself clear, I'm not asking for coaching or sweat session or anything of the like, I honestly just want to get hands with u, if u ever feel like it - just pm me and I'll sit in even on like 1 table with u. I play 50nl on stars and I'm pretty much a beginner at that level (only 10k hands lifetime).

What's in it for you? nothing really, take it as a compliment from someone that has high respect for your game/posts/gameplay-seen-on-vid who thinks it would be a fun experience to share a table with u
IM me at some point and ill make sure to ping you at some point before i session
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:21 PM   #85
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IM me at some point and ill make sure to ping you at some point before i session
wow really cool to see your positive response, thanks

How can I IM u?
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:23 PM   #86
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wow really cool to see your positive response, thanks

How can I IM u?
for sure...i guess PM me and ill ship u my AIM.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:27 PM   #87
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It might not be whether LAG or TAG or NIT is the best style, per se, but what fits a given situation. I'm reminded of that Gus Hansen commercial where he is wearing the outfits of other known pros. He's talking about how he always likes to mix it up. My style tends to be a little on the laggy side, which works well on weekday night deep tables since everyone's an easy to read nit. But on weekends, I get killed since I don't adjust as I should. I should be more taggy or just a downright nit those days. And I imagine as you move up and people are reading you better, it's not just about a style for a given table or a given day, but you need to be making adjustments on the fly in order to prevent your opponents from ranging you.

A good poker player should be proficient at all styles of play and be able to identify when to employ these strategies and then to execute them correctly.
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:10 PM   #88
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Re: COTW: Becoming A LAG

Great post.

Somebody should have clarified the table selection for LAGs in the COTW. When I started LAGging, I made a lot of money right away and surprisingly I found 25NL easier than 5 or 10. Then I read that COTW on selecting loose tables and starting tables.... It cost me like half of the bankroll.....

On a different note: sometimes you can't/do not want to leave the table which is not good for lagging. It can be a live game, there could be a reg at the table you want to beat, or your nature could be such that you feel it is must to teach these 3-ballers a lesson (spoken from experience). You need to change gears. What are the key adjustments you would recommend if you want to impose your play to the table?
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:25 PM   #89
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Re: COTW: Becoming A LAG

Ok Split...I was listen to you and made it a little better today:

better:

so I guess this is the optimum I can play atm...Its a real LAG style now???

with AG ?

I am very proud than I finally make the traslation from TAG/Nit to LAG...
right LAG?
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:46 PM   #90
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<900 hands.

W$SD of 63%

Yep martin, you made it.
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:49 PM   #91
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Re: COTW: Becoming A LAG

I was looking to push my ATS, CB% and overall agression...I know its small sample but I will looking forward...

Now I am a LAG lalallala
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:29 PM   #92
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I was looking to push my ATS, CB% and overall agression...I know its small sample but I will looking forward...

Now I am a LAG lalallala
ATS looks better...but LOL...CB went the wrong way

and for God's sake stop being so damn results oriented. session by session results are effing stupid (again, no offense)
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:33 PM   #93
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So I should CB less ?....damn. I though my CB % was not high enough...

but yeah you right I will look to get away from the mindset of being results oriented...
Its not easy belive me...
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So I should CB less ?....damn. I though my CB % was not high enough...

but yeah you right I will look to get away from the mindset of being results oriented...
Its not easy belive me...
a good LAG will generally CB around 63%-69%

and yea...you need to. it took me about 500K hands to do it...but its the best thing for my poker, and also my life. learn it now.

step 1...dont post a graph everyday
step 2...dont mention your results everyday
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:50 AM   #95
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I dont know why but playing 21/17 is better/easier/more confortable for me than 13/11...
And be a LAG is cooler these days than stadard TAG like everybody reg out there...I want be always special...

@Split did you look over my last stats? Was this a LAG stats or still L without AG...??
Umm man, you really need to try and make smaller adjustments. Going from 13/11 to 21/18 is going to get you crushed. You think it is working right now because you've got some run good, when you stop running so hot and you start running into some seriously marginal spots you are going to fall apart.

If you want to start loosening up and opening up your game, great, good for you, play 15/13, and then 17/15 before going to 21/18. I would also advise experimenting at 25nl or even 10nl while you work out some of the kinks. You are headed for disaster starting out like this.


You prolly aren't going to listen to me, though, but whatever.
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Old 12-16-2009, 03:36 AM   #96
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hey hood....I listen to you I know what you are trying to say but I will continue this way at 50NL...I feel a little more confortable right now than in the past...So I will stay at 50NL now and not move down...

yeah there a lot of marginal spots I have to look over and over again to get the right feeling for this kind of situation and my opponents...But I like my progress so far...
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hey hood....I listen to you I know what you are trying to say but I will continue this way at 50NL...I feel a little more confortable right now than in the past...So I will stay at 50NL now and not move down...

yeah there a lot of marginal spots I have to look over and over again to get the right feeling for this kind of situation and my opponents...But I like my progress so far...
martin, learn step 1&2 first
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:55 AM   #98
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I know but TAG is just standard reg style these days at FR...I always try not to be standard.
man your posts in this thread crack me up so badly...
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:24 AM   #99
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Old 12-16-2009, 10:51 AM   #100
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It's easy. Just c/c three streets with middle pair. nothing more tilting than getting owned by TAGs who do this But I take my revenge in the chat
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