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Originally Posted by gadolparah
Considering the example of PAUL555 who doesn't like to play TPTK passed 35bb.
Preflop 4+4+1.5 = 9.5bb
flop 3/4 pot bet = 9+7.5+7.5= 24
Turn 3/4 pot bet = 24 + 18=42bb at this point he folds TPTK
Preflop 3+3+1.5 = 7.5BB
Flop 7.5+5.5+5.5= 18.5
Turn 18.5+ 14 = 32bb, so he might call another street.
Using full pot bets on both streets i guess avoids this problem, but i try to avoid cbetting a full pot amount for the amount of times it must work. I also don't want to fire a second barrel against TAG PAUL555 who called my original cbet, but i guess that is true for both situations.
I guess you're also bad if you are knowingly trying to bluff PAUL555 off TPTK with nothing but fold equity...
i did mention that players like PAUL555 tend to roll over when you are threatening a pot that size as well. so while, yes, it may be a bit harder to create the pot size by the turn with 3x v 4x...you can still threaten it easily
in regards to the bolded part...why does that make you a bad player? if he will pretty much always fold when you create or threaten the creation of that pot size...how or why does our hand matter at all?
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Originally Posted by TheBowlBoy
Excellent post split.
I'm a bit confused on why you should want tight tables. I understand why tight tables are good: everybody folds and you pick up dead money. But fishy tables offer a lot of opportunity to isolate them in position. I don't play 6 max much, but when I do I tend to really lag it up and run at like 34/28 or so. The fundamentals are still same for me as when I play TAG fullring, but I do vb much thinner and 2barrell a lot more often against nitty players who are floating weaker hands as a way of adjusting to me.
25NL 6max tables are really fishy, and I like seeing lots of flops in position against fish. I know i can't win every pot, but I more often get 3 streets of value from TPWK type hands while keeping the pot small with weaker stuff.
Does this not make sense? Most good TAGS know how to widen their range to isolate the fish who keeps limping in. It doesn't mean you have to cbet every flop or 2 barrell much at all against them... if anything it gives your cbets and 2barrells more respect against the tighter players if they notice you checking back more flops and turns against the fish.
this article is about playing LAG...not about playing a widened up TAG range. my point against playing looser tables is they dont offer folds (PF or later really), and because of that, you are forced to have playable hands. The LAG play i wrote about is more focused on us being able to have air 95% of the time =)