A concise list of 2+2 theorems - Page 4 - Micro Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

Courtesy of gadolparah:

The Three-Button Theorem: With the nuts on the river it is most profitable to bet slightly less than all-in.

Proof: When you set your opponent all-in he has two options, call and fold. Hence he will call 50% of the time, and fold 50% of the time. When you bet slightly less, he has the additional option to raise. Hence the likelihood of a fold is reduced to one third. Thus, all the money (or almost all of it) goes in two thirds of the time, and we increase our expected winnings by one sixth of our river bet. Q.e.d.

This probably is quite reliable...hmm

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01-20-2011 , 02:14 PM

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archie1st

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Subscribed for later thanks.

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02-27-2011 , 10:13 AM

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nismo9

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02-27-2011 , 02:15 PM

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zachvac

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My theorem:

Most regulars in every scenario that faces them will attempt to find a theorem or key word that tells them how to play it, rather than assess ranges and use this to determine how best to play the hand.

Proof: All the posts ITT as well as posts in this forum including words like "showdown value", "pot control", "SPR", "under-repped", etc. without a single range estimation.

Applications: Figure out the formulaic approach each regular uses and then exploit that by not falling victim to the zachvac theorem.

Reliability: If they read/post in the 2p2 ufr section approximately 99.9%.

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07-23-2011 , 09:11 PM

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schroedy

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(OOP With a LHE hand that is a winner)

When the flush comes, you have to bet.

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10-18-2011 , 03:10 PM

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itseasy3

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the zeebo theorum reference link doesnt work

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11-22-2011 , 09:38 PM

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zumby

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Originally Posted by zachvac

awesome

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11-23-2011 , 03:19 AM

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JH1

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Sick bump

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03-02-2012 , 04:13 PM

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ship it dbag

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^lolz

oh and bump.

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03-02-2012 , 05:42 PM

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DDAWD

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one that comes up in live poker a lot.

"The first rule of poker is that the gutshot always gets there."

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06-20-2012 , 03:43 PM

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MApoker

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I disproved Zeebo's theorem the other day. 6-12 LHE, live:

Three players limp preflop, including hero in the middle w/33. Flop comes 999.

EP checks, hero bets, LP calls, EP calls.

Turn is a brick.

EP checks, hero bets, LP calls, EP check-raises. Snap-fold from both hero and LP.

EP showed the 9 for quads. It was dead obvious that he had it after the check-raise.

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07-16-2012 , 11:51 PM

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MrBHP

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Great thread, thanks for the contributions!

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05-01-2013 , 10:36 PM

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Nomboo

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bump

what is the insane_steve's theorem?

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05-01-2013 , 11:02 PM

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ISTM

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This thread is missing Renton's Theorem:

When making a decision preflop, on the flop, or on the turn, and theres a significant amount of money behind, choose the decision that has the greatest potential to put you in a good spot on later streets.

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/show...fpart=all&vc=1

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05-02-2013 , 02:08 PM

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Party-Boy

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I have used and applied these theorems many times to great effect and I believe that they are mostly useful.

I have a theorem, almost a rule really. Tongue in cheek, this happens a lot to me.

When you sit down at full ring, wait to be dealt in the big blind and your first hand is xx.
If it folds around to the Button who raises, you MUST 3 bet your first hand. This is because you recently read an article about 3 bet re-stealing, and you will show them you're no pushover and now you 3 Bet re-steal no matter what, even on your first hand, with no read on BU and your hand is ATC.

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04-04-2014 , 12:40 PM

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maverickf1

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good read, thanks

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07-15-2014 , 10:28 AM

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[ ] NameDelivers

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subbing to go over later

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08-05-2015 , 10:37 AM

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fourdeucehigh

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There's a theorem not posted here, that I cannot find info on anywhere. If someone knows the Personyo Theorem it'd be helpful if links are provided. Rampone from RIO says the Personyo Theorem is if you make a raise on a board where Hero is capped, villain will bluff more, with cbetting the deck and clicking back the deck

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03-07-2016 , 05:42 PM

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FishyFitzy

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Originally Posted by venice10

You have to define what drunk is and how one reacts to it. If getting drunk means that your VPIP is going up, that's bad. If drunk means you aren't able to bet size properly, that's bad. If drunk means you start speeding up your decisions, that's bad. If drunk means you start calling and bluffing more, that's costly.

However, poker isn't like driving a car. If it takes twice as long to come up with a decision, it doesn't matter.

For most individuals, being drunk means getting off their "A" game, as with the above examples. There are always exceptions.

Isn't Gavin Smith like 100% drunk!! ALL THE TIME?! That's where he's done some of his best work against Ivey :P

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