sounds sharp =)

i was just thinking about this today. Something to this day i still dont quite understand the nuances of. Very excited

had an idea for a cotw, most things have been done but this is a little different

live games, basically covering 27 game, straddling and the show one game. are these games a player should want to play - what sort of players/factors at the table will make me want to play any of these games. could talk about straddling and eff stacks, which players this is good against. is it ok to say no to any of these games. would the 27 game get fish to turn into huge spewtards etc or make stupid calls.

could maybe tag on the end stuff about antes aswell and raise size what this does to effective stacks, when this situation is favourable to us etc.

im sure most of it is common sense but my thoughts are a bit cluttered on this

Since these topics mostly apply to live games I'm not sure a COTW in the micro forum is the best place to discuss them. Check out the low stakes live NL forum.

They have a Concept of the Month in Live Low Stakes, make that offer there and see if there is interest.

Hi i'd be interested in doing a COTW on using statistic techniques to identify hand ranges. I'd start with a ground floor introduction to statistics using poker situations as a learning tool. Then i'll move on to more advanced topics such as regression analysis and how to account for selection biases. This COTW would be more conceptual in nature since a lot of these concepts are pretty new. I PM'd mpethybridge about it, but from the looks of his recent posts he's left the farm. Much of the content has already been written up so I'd be ready to go with it as soon as I get the ok. Thanks

you are more than welcome to do this! just let me know when you think you would be releasing it

I would be ready to put something out tomorrow. I'm going to PM you with a few questions.

sweet =)

Can we have a COTW on this "call and reval on the turn?" or "call and reeval on the river" strategy?

Sounds like a sweet way to rationalize calling when we don't know how to really think about the hand or we just don't wanna give up our sweet looking pear.

When is call and re-eval a good idea? When should we not be doing it? How do we think about these spots? Would be an interesting COTW (for me). It's advice we see on here all the time but I don't think half the people really understand what's going on in the spot

It's a cop-out imo.

This +1000 - make a plan /cotw

Gadolparah and I were talking about this - we are both interested.. if someone can write about it would be awesome.

yeah. i mean, i agree its a cop out and thats how i think about it in game. But earlier today i was having a debate in a thread with strangly lucid, JL514, and zeth about a hand where Zeth advocated for c/c and evaluating later streets. Also talked with my coach today about a hand where he thought calling the turn and evaluating a river bet were good. Both these players are better than me, and have caught my interest on this topic as somthing more than an excuse

i would like a cotw on how to find ways to exploit a reg (= like how to go through HEM or PT3 and spot leaks that regs have and abuse it

I think it was Zeth who wrote a post about exploiting different people. Cliff notes:

• Against calling stations, be weak-tight.
• Against aggressive players, be a calling station.
• Against weak-tight players, be aggressive.

No its not, you always have a rough plan with a hand when you make an acttion, but things like a sick turn card, crazy mutli-way action, somebody shoving 3x pot lead to re-evaling the hand.

Of course you re-evaluate when something drastic happens. I'm just saying that "calling to re-evaluate" does not seem like a sound plan to me.

Oh ok yeah as a standard its questionable. I mean i do call flop to eval the turn but i know sub-conscioulsy if a certain card hits and villian barrels what my standard will be, its when people call, get barreled and spend 15 seconds wondering what to do when things get very bad.

yeah we all know how to exploit fish.. how abt regs? xP

make less mistakes than they do, ldo =)

Everyone is a fish at the micros.

Read newmanmi's COTW porh.

Well... 90% of the time when someone says "I decided to call and re-evaluate" what they mean is "I just felt like calling because **** him and I had no plan."

That hand where I was advocating call and re-evaluate was a very common example where we have a strong overpair, the flop comes out low, unconnected and two-tone--something like J36--and you get check/raised by a 12/10 type reg. I was arguing that even a lot of 12/10's are going to mess around and check/raise air on some flops; many better players than myself insisted that I was wrong, that a nit-reg always has a set when he check/raises. Still not sure I agree. Anyway, my plan--which, again, everyone else said was daft--involved calling the check/raise and paying attention to whether he bets and, if so, how much he bets to decide whether to continue. I said my default plan was to call a turn bet, fold to a river bet because many regs double barrel but few triple barrel.

Kind of an aside, but again, most of the time "call and re-evaluate" is BS and code for "call but I don't know why." I'd like to think that even if I was wrong about that spot, at least I had a plan when I called the check-raise.

Can we have a CotW called "Threads not to start on 2p2?" I think this might be large +EV for the entire forum. Seriously.