no problem =) glad you enjoyed it

http://www.cardrunners-ev-calculator.com/Flopzilla.html

( http://www.cardrunners-ev-calculator...Flopzilla.html )

that is what you want

CREV is $99, and is a totally different program.

Thanks Split. Do use the other one--CREV? It looks like a really deep program....

i personally don't (although I have used it before). it's a great program if you like doing really complex decision trees and want to try some default line creation...

anyone else unable to view this video?

it's working just fine on my comp...

http://www.splitsuit.com/equityexploration/

Yep working now...

Perfect. Enjoy!

Absolutely amazing!

thank you =)

good articles

Where can I download stox combo that works with windows 7? I can't find a link.

i dont even know if stox combo works anymore. pick up Flopzilla imo

Not sure if i understand this correctly so i came up with a situation were i calculate if i can 3-bet profitable against a specific Villain. i know it's not neccesary at 5NL but it's just to see if i'm right in this calculation.

blinds 0.02/0.05

villain = VPIP: 16%, PFR: 13%, 3-BET: 4.3%, FOLD TO 3-BET: 42%,
STEAL CO: 22%


he opens from CO to 0.20c and we 3-bet him to 0.60c on BTN
0.60/(0.60+0.27) = 69%

Villain steal range in CO = 22%
Villain contr = 58% (fold to 3-bet: 42%)

he folds 42% of the time, but it has to work 69% of the time.
this means we cannot re-steal with a 3-bet profitable. we have to 3-bet only for value with an equity of +58% to make it profitable.

??

nope. it just means that your 3bet isn't OUTRIGHT profitable...meaning that you can't expect enough folds against the 3bet to show immediate profit. However, the 3bet can still be profitable given future ideas/info (e.g. how he'll react to a CB, IO, equity, and other fun stuff)

excuse me if i don't understand this properly. I'm doing my best to understand this concept

Ok, so let's take another example to look if there is something i'm doing is right

i'm not taking into account other factors such as variable effect, table dynamics, other players etc..

Villains stats in that particulair position (UTG)
VPIP:16, PFR:13, 3-bet:5%, fold to 3-bet:16%, 4-bet: 16%


Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP with T T
UTG raises to $0.17, Hero raises to $0.48,

0.48/(0.48+0.24) = 66% of the times we need him to fold.

Vilain fold to 3-bet: 42%
his contr: 9.3% (58% of 42)
so when he opens he will continue 58% of the time after getting 3-bet. that's too much to make a 3-bet profitable, but... we have TT and have a 51% equity agianst him because he only continues with 88+, AJ+, KQ+, ATs+, KTs+, QJs+
so this makes a 3-bet profitable.

Ok, but if he 4-bet's ?

Villain 4-betr: 1.5% (16% of his contr)

this means he will 4-bets us with a 1.5% range ( QQ+ )

because he will stack off almost 100% of the time with QQ+ it's easy to say it's not profitable to shove because we are 4 to 1 dog against his range
(19% equity)

please help me where it needs

thx

I'm sure this isn't the answer you are looking for...but I'll give it anyway...

what does the 3bet accomplish?

or put another way...why is 3betting the BEST play? could flatting be more profitable? why is equity edge (and barely one at that) your main focus when 3betting for "value"?

(I'm not asking these questions to be an ass...simply to get you asking/answering some very necessary questions when creating your own lines)

Also, don't forget having the best hand. If someone is continuing with 60% of his hands to a 3bet, his continuation range is really wide. The fold to a 3bet stat is more of a stat for bluffs. If a villain can't be bluffed, make your 3bet raises for value. You normally can't 3bet wide for value because you will get too many folds, but if this is not the case against a particular villain, then feel free to raise for value with a wider range.

I replied to split's post, but it's really directed to whoever split was replying to.

I'm not thinking about: what if i do this or take that line. I mean, if i overlook some lines and calculations i'm maybe able to know what i accomplish with the 3-bet. But for now i'm just looking for answers when i take this specific line.

i'm not really understanding why you ask me these things, but maybe this shows me that i have to master some other more basic crucial concepts first, before getting into these topics

maybe you have some tips for me ?


anyway, thx to help me giving some thought.

I'd suggest reading some more concept of the weeks (maybe ones on 3betting, restealing, reasons why we bet, etc.)

Do people really fold to 85% of resteals? I sure don't.

im sure someone does, lol

Sometimes it makes sense, depending on how wide you're stealing and how tight you think the resteal is. If you're raising like 30%, a lot of people aren't comfortable playing 35-40% of that range in a 3bet pot.

Anti-Archive bump.

In case you are wondering why all the bumps for cotw threads. 2+2 is about to update the forum software and will be archiving all threads that have not been active since last February. Since the COTW threads are invaluable I am going back through cotw threads from 20009. Trying to do it all in one go during the night to lessen annoyance of taking up space in the unl forum.

I will have to go back and watch this video again. I need to get the maths formulas =)

Thanks for the video. The mathematical side of poker is something I could brush up and learn more about.