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50nl is this a spewy bluff vs unknown? 50nl is this a spewy bluff vs unknown?

05-11-2021 , 09:45 PM
Yatahay Network - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 58.66 BB
SB: 198.6 BB
Hero (BB): 116.14 BB
UTG: 235.36 BB
MP: 221.28 BB
CO: 137.66 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A T

fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero raises to 6 BB, CO calls 5 BB, fold

Flop: (13 BB, 2 players) 9 8 7
Hero bets 8.7 BB, CO calls 8.7 BB

Turn: (30.4 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 19.36 BB, CO calls 19.36 BB

River: (69.12 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 82.08 BB and is all-in, fold,
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05-11-2021 , 09:54 PM
Yes, but to be clear bluffing with this specific hand here is bad vs anyone!
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05-11-2021 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Franchise804
Yes, but to be clear bluffing with this specific hand here is bad vs anyone!
That flop just scares me oop, what should my strategy be?
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05-11-2021 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by nixon2223
That flop just scares me oop, what should my strategy be?
It is definitely scary, because villain can have so many strong hands. We're still bluffing the flop sometimes, but with much "stronger" hands, like flushdraws, if that makes sense, and checking hands that would normally be strong enough to bluff on less terrifying boards.


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05-11-2021 , 10:12 PM
I like it, you had the balls to pull the trigger. I don't see anyone calling without a 6 or better and when you raise so big preflop then it's hard for them to have that.

But it's also a limper so maybe don't bluff em
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05-11-2021 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 2021shipit
I like it, you had the balls to pull the trigger. I don't see anyone calling without a 6 or better and when you raise so big preflop then it's hard for them to have that.

But it's also a limper so maybe don't bluff em
That really is the thing I don't think I should bluff a limper on a board like that! I think he calls 2 pairs?
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05-11-2021 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Franchise804
It is definitely scary, because villain can have so many strong hands. We're still bluffing the flop sometimes, but with much "stronger" hands, like flushdraws, if that makes sense, and checking hands that would normally be strong enough to bluff on less terrifying boards.


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So check a lot and bet value and flush draws ~70% pot?
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05-11-2021 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 2021shipit
I like it, you had the balls to pull the trigger. I don't see anyone calling without a 6 or better and when you raise so big preflop then it's hard for them to have that.
It's probably a little harder for us to have it as well
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05-11-2021 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nixon2223
So check a lot and bet value and flush draws ~70% pot?
First part, yes. But we actually like to bet much smaller on the flop--closer to 33%--for a number of reasons.

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05-11-2021 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by newguyhere
It's probably a little harder for us to have it as well
See this is true - but it's also not true because most low stakes regs aren't quick enough to realize that. Scary 4 straight board, they just aren't making the bluffcatches they should (again, not sure if it applies to villain). I far prefer to thinking about what portion of villain's range I can get to fold before thinking about my own perceived range.
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05-12-2021 , 01:23 AM
As a pfr this is a scary board (think about your range and a limp-caller's range). You can bet at low freq but I prefer to check 100% when oop and c/r the big hands and draws, especially if he has a tendency to stab. This particular hand is a c/c.

Your line is very bluffy - what 6x do you even have here? Do you 6x JTs when limped to preflop?
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05-12-2021 , 04:57 AM
folding Ah on flop is... weak, not naceserrily bad, but weak, still it's best play vs fish, vs better plyers cr flop, bet turn and shove made str8's and heart runouts is legitimate bluff IMO
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05-12-2021 , 06:37 AM
In principle, I like this line as villain will have a lot of folds otr (bricked FD, straight draws, pairs+straight draws), not that many nutted slow played hands, and I reckon villain will fold most if not all one pair hands otr. However, the Ah is probably the card you least want to have, so not a huge fan of doing it with this particular hand. Having a T is a little more ambiguous, as realistically, what hands are you taking this line with as bluffs which don't have a T. Maybe QJ?

In my view, whether you should use this hand will depend on how many Tx you're betting pre. If the only offsuit Tx you have is ATo, I reckon this is not too bad, but if you have some KTo-T9o, you should have some better choices. As I reckon you are getting a lot of folds otr, I think you can probably get away with bluffing close to any 2, so even though the hand selection isn't ideal, I don't think it is a losing play.
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05-12-2021 , 06:52 AM
just try to get to see all cards and realize as much eq as you can for as cheap as possible vs the fish
if betting 10%p on flop and turn gets you there, by all means do it
river abandon ship if you whiff
whenever you improve, bet according to the strength of your hand
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