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Old 02-24-2019, 04:19 AM   #101
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just looked at 20k hands at zone , losing to rake . im playing 24% hands at the most and paying 9.6bb/100. so its unbeatable and the site is definitley running bots to generate rake. so technically i was right. its rigged.

also Mzbourg if only you had a bankroll as high as your post count. do you even play poker bro? you know they make forums for regular people to like reddit. you would fit in really well or maybe 4chan.
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Old 02-24-2019, 12:02 PM   #102
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just looked at 20k hands at zone , losing to rake . im playing 24% hands at the most and paying 9.6bb/100. so its unbeatable and the site is definitley running bots to generate rake. so technically i was right. its rigged.

also Mzbourg if only you had a bankroll as high as your post count. do you even play poker bro? you know they make forums for regular people to like reddit. you would fit in really well or maybe 4chan.
Yikes if true. 888 poker have a similar rake but there's like zero regs so the rake is beatable, if ignition is as hard as stars/party while having that rake then it's definitely not playable.
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Old 02-24-2019, 03:34 PM   #103
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Yikes if true. 888 poker have a similar rake but there's like zero regs so the rake is beatable, if ignition is as hard as stars/party while having that rake then it's definitely not playable.
well whats weird is 5nl regular cash tables are as soft as you would expect them to be but when you go to zone thats when you start to see alot of 3betting out of the SB and proper c betting in position and bet sizing to deny equity in zone format with no reads and whats makes it so confusing. like a standard weak bot.

id bet my life bovada has bots in that game generating rake. you still have the 5nl players there so it seems crushable but then ive realized that the other 25 players are bots.

also strange is im losing massive from the button also small and BB ( rake im guessing and maybe bots ) . but im actually profiting decent from middle position which makes me wonder if it is bots are they programmed bots to think you have a tighter range from middle positions and fold to cbets more.
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Old 02-24-2019, 05:20 PM   #104
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Yikes if true. 888 poker have a similar rake but there's like zero regs so the rake is beatable, if ignition is as hard as stars/party while having that rake then it's definitely not playable.
actually i did the math wrong last time , its actually 10.7 bb/100 lol
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Old 03-07-2019, 08:57 PM   #105
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well whats weird is 5nl regular cash tables are as soft as you would expect them to be but when you go to zone thats when you start to see alot of 3betting out of the SB and proper c betting in position and bet sizing to deny equity in zone format with no reads and whats makes it so confusing. like a standard weak bot.

id bet my life bovada has bots in that game generating rake. you still have the 5nl players there so it seems crushable but then ive realized that the other 25 players are bots.

also strange is im losing massive from the button also small and BB ( rake im guessing and maybe bots ) . but im actually profiting decent from middle position which makes me wonder if it is bots are they programmed bots to think you have a tighter range from middle positions and fold to cbets more.
Why don't you make a vid of you playing a sesh and link it on here so we can all watch and see if you have any bad leaks in your game before you accuse players of cheating. Cheating def going on with online and live poker. I can spot it and i just leave the table and go to another one instead of trying to battle with them. YOur playing zone so its less likely then regular tables. I sit reg tables so I can pay attention to whats going on with the table and if i can find cheaters i mark them certain color never sit their tables again. My guess is that you might have a few leaks you need fixed in your game and if you can't make vids post hands where your not sure if you played a hand well or not.
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Old 03-13-2019, 06:36 PM   #106
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Why don't you make a vid of you playing a sesh and link it on here so we can all watch and see if you have any bad leaks in your game before you accuse players of cheating. Cheating def going on with online and live poker. I can spot it and i just leave the table and go to another one instead of trying to battle with them. YOur playing zone so its less likely then regular tables. I sit reg tables so I can pay attention to whats going on with the table and if i can find cheaters i mark them certain color never sit their tables again. My guess is that you might have a few leaks you need fixed in your game and if you can't make vids post hands where your not sure if you played a hand well or not.
im not wasting more of my time on zone , i keep having to reiterate im not playing 5nl because i have to , i could deposit and play 5/10 if i wanted to and thought my money was safe there. i play live mostly but wanting to play online more.

im not doing a video but ill post 20k zone hands ( the ones i havent purged from pt4) and 20k from reg tables. in a little bit. im crushing reg tables couldnt do much more than break even at best at zone. ( now i know mostly because of rake) and i suspect bots during certian hours when player pool has died out.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:36 AM   #107
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Hahahahahhhahahahahahahaha
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Old 03-15-2019, 04:14 AM   #108
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The Zone games are literally some of the softest I've played in in my 10 years playing online.
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Old 03-17-2019, 10:10 PM   #109
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The Zone games are literally some of the softest I've played in in my 10 years playing online.
your more than welcome to prove it? graph?
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Old 03-19-2019, 10:54 AM   #110
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New zone 5 fish here. Hoping to continue to crush you all. Gotta stop playing on my phone though they put the doom switch on when Iím playing on the toilet.
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Old 03-21-2019, 12:01 AM   #111
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your more than welcome to prove it? graph?
Saw your retarded post in the Iggy thread...



I'd post a graph but HM isn't on this computer and this image is. The game isn't exactly difficult if you don't suck.
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Old 03-21-2019, 12:17 AM   #112
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Saw your retarded post in the Iggy thread...



I'd post a graph but HM isn't on this computer and this image is. The game isn't exactly difficult if you don't suck.
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Travelling overseas atm, but can post one when I get back.
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Old 03-21-2019, 01:34 PM   #113
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I just want to point out this hand to anyone who says that 5nl zone on Ignition is easy, just shove it all in when you have the nuts and you get paid off every time. Very not true, unfortunately.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 200.8 BB (VPIP: 30.24, PFR: 6.49, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 5,281)
UTG: 98.4 BB (VPIP: 20.93, PFR: 15.68, 3Bet Preflop: 4.26, Hands: 5,269)
Hero (MP): 259.2 BB
CO: 61.4 BB (VPIP: 24.66, PFR: 16.15, 3Bet Preflop: 4.69, Hands: 5,301)
BTN: 214 BB (VPIP: 28.97, PFR: 18.10, 3Bet Preflop: 5.05, Hands: 5,291)
SB: 302.6 BB (VPIP: 29.60, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 4.93, Hands: 5,281)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9 9

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) 9 2 K
SB bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: (13 BB, 2 players) A
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (13 BB, 2 players) 8
SB bets 32.4 BB, Hero raises to 253.2 BB and is all-in, fold


SB mucks 2 2 (Three of a Kind, Twos)

Hero wins 74 BB
Why do you call the tiny flop bet and check the turn? Did you think you were being clever by doing that?

Then when you shove over his massive river overbet for 250bb, you always have a higher set. This is never a bluff and not even 2 pair.

I get the point you're making - I would expect a fish to call with bottom set here. But you got what you deserved for playing the hand so poorly.
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Old 03-21-2019, 01:50 PM   #114
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I just want to point out this hand to anyone who says that 5nl zone on Ignition is easy, just shove it all in when you have the nuts and you get paid off every time. Very not true, unfortunately.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 200.8 BB (VPIP: 30.24, PFR: 6.49, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 5,281)
UTG: 98.4 BB (VPIP: 20.93, PFR: 15.68, 3Bet Preflop: 4.26, Hands: 5,269)
Hero (MP): 259.2 BB
CO: 61.4 BB (VPIP: 24.66, PFR: 16.15, 3Bet Preflop: 4.69, Hands: 5,301)
BTN: 214 BB (VPIP: 28.97, PFR: 18.10, 3Bet Preflop: 5.05, Hands: 5,291)
SB: 302.6 BB (VPIP: 29.60, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 4.93, Hands: 5,281)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9bovada zone unbeatable: 9bovada zone unbeatable

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) 9bovada zone unbeatable: 2bovada zone unbeatable: Kbovada zone unbeatable
SB bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: (13 BB, 2 players) Abovada zone unbeatable:
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (13 BB, 2 players) 8bovada zone unbeatable:
SB bets 32.4 BB, Hero raises to 253.2 BB and is all-in, fold


SB mucks 2bovada zone unbeatable 2bovada zone unbeatable: (Three of a Kind, Twos)

Hero wins 74 BB
Would be hard to play the hand as bad as you did.
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Old 03-21-2019, 04:00 PM   #115
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Saw your retarded post in the Iggy thread...



I'd post a graph but HM isn't on this computer and this image is. The game isn't exactly difficult if you don't suck.
thats run good , but ill bite .what stakes is this . i specifically said 5nl. the rake is retarded. also look at your showdown win. your a fish on a heater. im crushing reg tables so im fine.
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Old 03-21-2019, 10:36 PM   #116
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thats run good , but ill bite .what stakes is this . i specifically said 5nl. the rake is retarded.
That is $5nl because it's what you were talking about. I made ~8bb/100 over ~250k hands at $25 and I think 12bb+ is possible there had I always played my A-game.

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You're cute.
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Old 03-21-2019, 11:27 PM   #117
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Old 03-22-2019, 01:38 AM   #118
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thats run good , but ill bite .what stakes is this . i specifically said 5nl. the rake is retarded. also look at your showdown win. your a fish on a heater. im crushing reg tables so im fine.
You're just really terrible at poker, stick to your live games.
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Old 04-28-2019, 11:08 PM   #119
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Travelling overseas atm, but can post one when I get back.
Bump for graph or stats or whatever.

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Old 05-03-2019, 08:31 AM   #120
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seems that we can't find a single winning player who is willing to show his graph.

I think that site is just a scam. withdraw your money and play on stars.
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Old 05-03-2019, 09:46 AM   #121
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bovada zone unbeatable

Lol Iím at I think 18 bb/100 over 10k hands but Iím not playing 5 anymore and not enough sample to post a pic.

Site definitely beatable

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