Okay, I just discovered that the hand replayer is messed up. I just reviewed another hand and the amount they say was in the pot is not correct. At the tables, the rake is 5%ish which seems standard.

I played some more today and there are actually quite a few loose players now. The player pool changes depending on what time of day you play. Instead of creating a super exploitative strategy I think the best approach is to play a balanced strategy that can adjust slightly based on the player pool tendencies at the time.

If players at the time are opening very tightly, you can open loosely. If players aren't 3-betting a lot, you can 3-bet liberally because of the tight image the player pool has created for you. If there is a guy who is 3-betting every hand. (I'm pretty sure this has happened ), you can 3-bet a tighter value heavy range.

Overall though I think it is a mistake to create weird ass ranges to exploit the field because the field can change tomorrow.

mods can close this if they want. i think its pretty clear this game is a rake trap and unbeatable. no one is even claming long term winner and after a 34 short stack buy in down swing to suckouts and set mining and 2 outers thats enough for me . keep playing if yall want.

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you know your a ****ing idiot, right?

At least I can beat 5nl on Bovada and that without having a balanced approach.

OP isnt too far off now imo. Games have been overtaken by tag stations, who dont fold and dont pay you off, mostly bots prob. Games are terrible compared to earlier in the year. When you factor in paying highest rake in poker, its pretty dead now sadly.

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People beat Zone (from nl5 - 500) over large samples. You just want to blame your own failure on rake, superusers, variance, etc. Quit complaining and do something useful with your time.

seems viable. reg / MTT's on this site are soft beyond belief, though, so I think it's more of a grind for starting a roll than choosing those, as exploitative play in the lower limits nets some big gifts from loose players who start playing back against tight ranges.

busto?

confirmed , cashing pop bottles till i have enough to buy back in.

Spaghetti is my favorite food.

down 22 buy ins in bovada zone after long lay off to straight bad beats ( im literally laughing at how ****ing unlikely this is ) as i said before hands are too frequent in bovada zone they do this to generate action. you can even see in on pt4 on the bell curve graph

people who have played gaming sites for advantage play know that the site can turn a players account to not pay out what the games says it should as far a frequency of hands being made in a table game ( theyve tested it) . i truly believe that bovada zone is flat out unbeatable ( any positive win rate is by design for larger depositing players) or my account has to be doom switched for winning too much initially.

lol only 22 buy ins? wait until it really gets bad.

im playing the lowest variance style too , im not even considering being balanced in any spot so that makes it even more ****ed. my bet sizing should be insulting to these people. i just dont understand how a game with so many blatant mistakes could be this swingy without intervention .

I think you should consider quitting poker. The games will only get tougher as time goes on and you aren't beating 5nl.

I used to play a lot of poker, but I rarely play now and my life is a lot better than it was. The profits were always meager for me and in your case it looks like you're just losing. I suppose if you are playing for recreational reasons, by all means, have fun. If you are playing poker for financial gain then you are wasting your time.

Cash in your chips now. Before you know it, you'll be a 60 yo man grumbling about how he wasted 40 years of his life on a game he couldn't beat.

I just want to point out this hand to anyone who says that 5nl zone on Ignition is easy, just shove it all in when you have the nuts and you get paid off every time. Very not true, unfortunately.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 200.8 BB (VPIP: 30.24, PFR: 6.49, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 5,281)
UTG: 98.4 BB (VPIP: 20.93, PFR: 15.68, 3Bet Preflop: 4.26, Hands: 5,269)
Hero (MP): 259.2 BB
CO: 61.4 BB (VPIP: 24.66, PFR: 16.15, 3Bet Preflop: 4.69, Hands: 5,301)
BTN: 214 BB (VPIP: 28.97, PFR: 18.10, 3Bet Preflop: 5.05, Hands: 5,291)
SB: 302.6 BB (VPIP: 29.60, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 4.93, Hands: 5,281)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9 9

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 2.6 BB, fold

Flop: (7 BB, 2 players) 9 2 K
SB bets 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: (13 BB, 2 players) A
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (13 BB, 2 players) 8
SB bets 32.4 BB, Hero raises to 253.2 BB and is all-in, fold


SB mucks 2 2 (Three of a Kind, Twos)

Hero wins 74 BB

Unsure why your not raising flop and/or betting turn. Lost value is on you in this hand. He is going to have a much harder time folding the river when the pot is larger....

Can you beat the regular 5NL tables?

If you want to pay 200 dollars an hour, I will coach you and show you that it's beatable.

yes and live and HU up to 50c/1 a while back. show me a graph of a winner over a significant sample. i know how to beat it i am literally losing as a fav. in every pot anywhere near 100BB or more. getting money in good isnt my problem its my hand holding. its truley unbelievable.

edit , its not beyond me how to beat a game like this in theory. with people having to wide of ranges in all positions in 3bet pots and over valuing hands and sticky with middle and under pairs. zero concept of bet sizing . you can almost spot the UPswing guys who 3bet to wide from sb in this game. i dont think UPswing works here. its just a lesson in value betting and small bluffs in position only if you were the PFR. im just calling bull**** , 5NL is unbeatable because the game is rigged.

you wanna send me a private message?
I can watch over you (as you play) and we can review your hands of if you track them. No charge...
But if you want coaching after, I will charge.

you have private messages off or you cant receive them . but either way its already proven this game format is unbeatable. not one person can provide a winning graph of significant hands. not only unbeatable for rake and edge reasons i flat out ****ing guaruntee its bovada bots playing on there. with doom switch.

try now... very sorry about that. I just sent you a private message.

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Trying really hard to figure if this is a troll or not

post a graph , this game is not beatable and is rigged * confirmed by the fact that not one single player on here can post a winning graph at specifically bovada zone .

i never said i cant beat certain game types , Im saying i unequivocally can not beat bovada zone at 5nl and i should certianly be able too. no body can seem to come up with a winning graph also its been proven before for these offshore unregulated sites to rigg other games they offer. so post a graph or stfu.

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