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AK Line Check (Bluff Raise Turn vs Donk Bet) AK Line Check (Bluff Raise Turn vs Donk Bet)

04-05-2018 , 05:04 PM
65 hands Villain is vpip38/pfr18/3bet0/coldcall43/af 1.8

Although villains range connects well with this flop and I don't expect to get many folds, I cbet the flop anyways because I have over card, back door flush, and back door straight potential in addition to my uncapped range and range advantage.

On the turn, without improving, I am giving up and trying to get to showdown to see if A hi is possibly good.
But villain donk bets into me, and that created this opportunity to bluff raise.

Given that my range is uncapped, I have a range advantage on the flop, and I think that villain's range is wide with mostly draws and weak pair/combo draws that are vulnerable to a raise, I decided to go for the bluff.

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NL Holdem $0.05(BB)
CO ($8)
BTN ($4.38)
SB ($6.03)
HERO ($5.05)
UTG ($4.77)
HJ ($1.47)

Dealt to Hero K A

UTG Calls $0.05 (Rem. Stack: 4.72), HJ Calls $0.05 (Rem. Stack: 1.42), CO Calls $0.05 (Rem. Stack: 7.95), BTN Folds, SB Calls $0.03 (Rem. Stack: 5.98), HERO Raises To $0.35 (Rem. Stack: 4.65), UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, SB Calls $0.35 (Rem. Stack: 5.63)

Flop ($0.95) 8 7 J
SB Checks, HERO Bets $0.57 (Rem. Stack: 4.08), SB Calls $0.57 (Rem. Stack: 5.06)

Turn ($2.09) 8 7 J 4
SB Bets $1.03 (Rem. Stack: 4.03), HERO Raises To $3.29 (Rem. Stack: 0.79)


Since we think villain is not folding this flop very often, and AK is pretty marginal here, would a delayed cbet be better? Bet on the turn when checked to if villain still looks weak, or if we improve?
After cbetting the flop with AK, considering villain still has tons of draws in his range, should we usually follow through with a second barrel, even if we don't improve?
Any comments or suggestions are appreciated, thanks.
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04-05-2018 , 07:32 PM
I wouldn't have c-bet this flop and I certainly wouldn't have raised the turn donk. However, this was the exact scenario that you outlined in that other thread as being a line that has worked out well for you in the past.
It just seems like a needlessly volatile way to try and win money (especially given how little equity your hand has on the turn-it doesn't even block anything-apart from the odd flush draw which you actually want him to have).
I guess my attitude is that sometimes even though I get dealt a nice hand, the board and the tendencies of my opponent conspire to making me think that giving up on a hand is the best way to go.
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04-05-2018 , 11:36 PM
I'm ok with otf cbetting. But The raise ott is spew.
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04-06-2018 , 11:45 AM
I don't think it is spewy, the fold equity is there.

I bluff raise donk flop bets almost all the time, too.

For the most part people are donk betting me as blocker bets, or to find out where they are at. Because they are usually weak they will fold when they no longer think you are messing around.

That is my default approach--I dont ever bluff tight passives or stations.
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