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Old 03-16-2019, 05:02 PM   #1
Keys Kid
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AK dry flop question

I'm wondering when AK is good to throw away. I keep running into raising preflop with it and then hitting a dry board and asking myself now what? Any help in greatly appreciated and thank you.

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Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+2: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.00, PFR: 11.74, 3Bet Preflop: 2.73, Hands: 251)
CO: 214.6 BB (VPIP: 30.43, PFR: 20.29, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 69)
BTN: 25.5 BB (VPIP: 13.37, PFR: 4.37, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 347)
Hero (SB): 236.2 BB
BB: 40 BB
UTG: 103.5 BB (VPIP: 38.98, PFR: 18.64, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 61)
UTG+1: 119.2 BB (VPIP: 15.67, PFR: 10.45, 3Bet Preflop: 2.21, Hands: 412)
MP: 93.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP+1: 172.3 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 84)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 5 BB, Hero raises to 15 BB, BB calls 10 BB

Flop: (30 BB, 2 players) 5 T 5
Hero checks, BB bets 25 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 25 BB

Turn: (80 BB, 2 players) 3

River: (80 BB, 2 players) Q

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Old 03-16-2019, 05:48 PM   #2
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Re: AK dry flop question

I think you played it fine. The flop call maybe could be argued against but I dont think its horrible.
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Old 03-16-2019, 07:41 PM   #3
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Re: AK dry flop question

You just have to shove this flop. he has 5/6 of a pot sized bet remaining. Make it difficult for him. You made it easy by checking.
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Old 03-16-2019, 08:58 PM   #4
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Re: AK dry flop question

He's absolutly never folding a better hand on the flop imo so I think c-c is the best play. We can't c-f, we almost have direct odds to hit a pair and we obviously beat some hands.
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Old 03-16-2019, 09:51 PM   #5
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Re: AK dry flop question

If you can play AA the same way, check flop fine. This spot is only worth thinking about when deep. I think the 1/3 w entire range works. I also like 1/2 pot bet polarized. The thing is, after u 3bet, it’s somewhat required to bet the flop. It’s kind of like opening doors for girls. You’re just supposed to do it and there’s not muc EV to be gained by being unorthodox here. The only legitimate reason to check flop is to induce bluff from otherwise folding hands, or to pot control with AK. However, by playing the pot control line, I think when deep, you effectively give away the pot by checking. Unless you start checking monsters once in a while, then you will get run over by any decent opponent
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Old 03-16-2019, 11:36 PM   #6
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Re: AK dry flop question

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If you can play AA the same way, check flop fine. This spot is only worth thinking about when deep. I think the 1/3 w entire range works. I also like 1/2 pot bet polarized. The thing is, after u 3bet, itís somewhat required to bet the flop. Itís kind of like opening doors for girls. Youíre just supposed to do it and thereís not muc EV to be gained by being unorthodox here. The only legitimate reason to check flop is to induce bluff from otherwise folding hands, or to pot control with AK. However, by playing the pot control line, I think when deep, you effectively give away the pot by checking. Unless you start checking monsters once in a while, then you will get run over by any decent opponent
this is why i think training videos are fine. especially on youtube.
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Old 03-23-2019, 12:06 PM   #7
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Re: AK dry flop question

I think that in this sit since it was blind vs blind it could've gone all in.. but since it is a cash game I don't really think it was necessary. I've always said that a lot of people overplay A/K (You can check out a thread that I started about A/Q) but in regards to this hand a call pre when he re raise you would have been ideal and on the flop since you're oop a check raise would have prob worked. But not a huge leak just bad run out
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Old 03-25-2019, 09:24 AM   #8
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You just have to shove this flop. he has 5/6 of a pot sized bet remaining. Make it difficult for him. You made it easy by checking.
That's usually my line of thinking too. If they have a PSB or less left, just shove. They're probably calling regardless, but no point really checking here IMO.
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