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02-23-2018 , 07:37 AM
effective stacks are about 60bb
Villain is 29/6/2.3

Thoughts?


[converted_hand][hand_history]WPN, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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SB: $13.88 (138.8 bb)
BB: $13.28 (132.8 bb)
UTG+1: $6.23 (62.3 bb)
UTG+2: $10 (100 bb)
MP1: $27.99 (279.9 bb)
Hero (MP2): $12.29 (122.9 bb)
MP3: $10.44 (104.4 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
BTN: $10.65 (106.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9 9
UTG+1 raises to $0.35, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.35, Hero raises to $1.55, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.20, MP1 folds

Flop: ($3.60) 7 2 6 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $10.74,
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02-23-2018 , 07:47 AM
I through this up quick as I was running out the door. To add to the post, I am struggling to find the sweet spot between aggressive three bet strategy and when to play more passively and set mine.

With villain being short I decided I would three even though his range is pretty strong. On the flop I am assuming a lot of AQ, AJ even AK with this villain but have to keep TT-QQ in his range.

I guess my shove protects my hand against overs, but it just seems bad as it gets nothing better to fold and really doesn't seem to have much value.

Im really struggling with my game time thought process.
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02-23-2018 , 09:27 AM
That shove is pretty bad as it both allows villain to play perfectly and loses extra $$$ when you run into the top of his range.

If you bet $2 and he shoves I think you have a have a pretty easy fold Vs someone this passive looking.

I get it that you don't want to be drawn out on but your goal should be to make the most +EV decision not to win the pot at any cost, no matter how small it is.
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02-23-2018 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Brussels Sprout
That shove is pretty bad as it both allows villain to play perfectly and loses extra $$$ when you run into the top of his range.

If you bet $2 and he shoves I think you have a have a pretty easy fold Vs someone this passive looking.

I get it that you don't want to be drawn out on but your goal should be to make the most +EV decision not to win the pot at any cost, no matter how small it is.
Yeah, that's what I thought when I looked at my session.

A few questions:

Is preflop fine?

If villain calls the $2 turn bet what is our plan on safe turns? I felt like any bet on the flop ties me to the pot based on his stack size so I opted to shove the flop.
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02-23-2018 , 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by antneye
Is preflop fine?
I think it depends on how much fold equity you think you have. If the opener is likely to be a bit of a station I'd prefer calling behind but if he folds to a lot of c-bets then I'm 3betting every time.

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If villain calls the $2 turn bet what is our plan on safe turns?
I'd bet again.

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Originally Posted by antneye
I felt like any bet on the flop ties me to the pot based on his stack size so I opted to shove the flop.
The size of villain's calling range is going to be inversely proportional to your bet size. If you bet a reasonable amount it's likely that you can get called by a lot of worse hands but when you shove you're folding out most of them whilst still getting called by his monsters. It's a lose-lose situation.
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02-23-2018 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Brussels Sprout
I think it depends on how much fold equity you think you have. If the opener is likely to be a bit of a station I'd prefer calling behind but if he folds to a lot of c-bets then I'm 3betting every time.



I'd bet again.



The size of villain's calling range is going to be inversely proportional to your bet size. If you bet a reasonable amount it's likely that you can get called by a lot of worse hands but when you shove you're folding out most of them whilst still getting called by his monsters. It's a lose-lose situation.
That makes sense. If I am understanding you properly, I probably end up getting stacked either way on this specific hand, but in the long term I would realize value from his calling hands that my shove forces to fold.

I basically reduced any value I had by taking this line and turning my hand into a bluff.
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02-23-2018 , 04:28 PM
Yeah exactly
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